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Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:02:23 AM »

We’re told that Sigma will announce the 85mm f/1.4 DG Art series lens in late August, in time for Photokina in Germany. Availability may not be until early 2015. Perhaps this is to steal some of the thunder from the expected Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 OTUS lens that will be announced at Photokina.


It’s also possible that Sigma will announce something like a 300mm-600mm supertelephoto zoom lens. Although that may not come until 2015. There was no mention of whether or not the lens would have a constant aperture, or even what the aperture would be.


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Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:02:23 AM »

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 11:27:27 AM »
My price prediction: $999.99.  It's like a staircase of $50 increments from the 35mm to the 50 mm to the 85 mm.
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 11:33:27 AM »
My price prediction: $999.99.  It's like a staircase of $50 increments from the 35mm to the 50 mm to the 85 mm.

n=2 data points are hardly enough to suggest further data points.

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 11:35:26 AM »
I will be looking forward to the reviews of this lens. I have not tried the 50, but if this 85 is like the 35, it could be a good option. It all depends on the reviews/tests.
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 11:44:53 AM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 11:59:56 AM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 12:03:40 PM »
And with this story, we as photographers can reap the benefits of a thriving, competitive marketplace. 

Go Sigma.  Go Canon.  More great new stuff, please.

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2014, 12:03:40 PM »

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 12:09:31 PM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

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Just to be clear, I do not have AF problems but at least 2 forum members here experience AF problems - there is a thread about it.
It is about the 50m f/1.4 Art and not the 35mm f/1.4 Art.
It just seems that there is a chance to receive a copy that suffers from AF problems. Given the history with the previous 50mm f/1.4 of Sigma, also AF issue, it is not good advertisement. It does not mean that it is consistent with AF problems. But the doubt is there....
And so
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 12:11:53 PM »
AF............. ::)
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 12:26:55 PM »
My price prediction: $999.99.  It's like a staircase of $50 increments from the 35mm to the 50 mm to the 85 mm.

n=2 data points are hardly enough to suggest further data points.

it needs only 2 points to draw a straigth line...
so it is entirely possible.. the question is how accurate predictions based on this will be.



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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 12:28:46 PM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

- A

Just to be clear, I do not have AF problems but at least 2 forum members here experience AF problems - there is a thread about it.
It is about the 50m f/1.4 Art and not the 35mm f/1.4 Art.
It just seems that there is a chance to receive a copy that suffers from AF problems. Given the history with the previous 50mm f/1.4 of Sigma, also AF issue, it is not good advertisement. It does not mean that it is consistent with AF problems. But the doubt is there....
And so

wow 2 ... ?!

and when i report that forums in germany are full with 70D AF problems with certain fast lenses and the center AF point.... dozend of people here say they are all noobs and just too stupid to use a camera.

LOL....

but two reports.... that´s practically a fact. :)
so we have to write in every sigma threat that the sigma art line has AF problems...
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 12:37:33 PM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

- A

Just to be clear, I do not have AF problems but at least 2 forum members here experience AF problems - there is a thread about it.
It is about the 50m f/1.4 Art and not the 35mm f/1.4 Art.
It just seems that there is a chance to receive a copy that suffers from AF problems. Given the history with the previous 50mm f/1.4 of Sigma, also AF issue, it is not good advertisement. It does not mean that it is consistent with AF problems. But the doubt is there....
And so

wow 2 ... ?!

and when i report that forums in germany are full with 70D AF problems with certain fast lenses and the center AF point.... dozend of people here say they are all noobs and just too stupid to use a camera.

LOL....

but two reports.... that´s practically a fact. :)
so we have to write in every sigma threat that the sigma art line has AF problems...

Just sayin' you can not ignore it - meaning it will pop-up in the wow factor.
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 12:41:05 PM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

- A

Just to be clear, I do not have AF problems but at least 2 forum members here experience AF problems - there is a thread about it.
It is about the 50m f/1.4 Art and not the 35mm f/1.4 Art.
It just seems that there is a chance to receive a copy that suffers from AF problems. Given the history with the previous 50mm f/1.4 of Sigma, also AF issue, it is not good advertisement. It does not mean that it is consistent with AF problems. But the doubt is there....
And so
I do not doubt you one bit, but I have to ask if this is a case of confirming that 'buying third party lenses is risky' or that we now hold new offerings from Sigma to a spectacularly high bar for AF.  Sigma has burned folks before on AF, but so has Canon.

Virtually every review of the Sigma 35 and 50 Art ranges from very good to stellar.  The only thing I've heard is this passage from TDP:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-50mm-f-1.4-DG-HSM-Art-Lens.aspx
(go to the butterfly mouseover interactive section and read the text above and below it)

I know this is a Sigma 85mm thread, but I am still trying to gather if the boogeyman of 'bad AF of Sigma lenses past' is fair for their more recent glass.  From a how-I-think-it-will-work-right-now (without any testing) standpoint, I would argue native Canon lens AF is usually innocent until proven guilty, yet with Sigma, it often seems the other way around...

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 12:41:05 PM »

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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2014, 12:46:49 PM »
Looks like Sigma will have to deal with AF reports first and check this before release of the 85mm f/1.4 Art. This is not good advertisement for Sigma and their products.
My 50mm f/1.4 Art does not have AF problems. I am extremely happy with my copy.

I thought all the Arts were very, very well reviewed.  Are you saying there is an AF problem with the 35 or 50 Art lenses?  And is it something the USB firmware tool cannot fix?

- A

Just to be clear, I do not have AF problems but at least 2 forum members here experience AF problems - there is a thread about it.
It is about the 50m f/1.4 Art and not the 35mm f/1.4 Art.
It just seems that there is a chance to receive a copy that suffers from AF problems. Given the history with the previous 50mm f/1.4 of Sigma, also AF issue, it is not good advertisement. It does not mean that it is consistent with AF problems. But the doubt is there....
And so
I do not doubt you one bit, but I have to ask if this is a case of confirming that 'buying third party lenses is risky' or that we now hold new offerings from Sigma to a spectacularly high bar for AF.  Sigma has burned folks before on AF, but so has Canon.

Virtually every review of the Sigma 35 and 50 Art ranges from very good to stellar.  The only thing I've heard is this passage from TDP:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Sigma-50mm-f-1.4-DG-HSM-Art-Lens.aspx
(go to the butterfly mouseover interactive section and read the text above and below it)

I know this is a Sigma 85mm thread, but I am still trying to gather if the boogeyman of 'bad AF of Sigma lenses past' is fair for their more recent glass.  From a how-I-think-it-will-work-right-now (without any testing) standpoint, I would argue native Canon lens AF is usually innocent until proven guilty, yet with Sigma, it often seems the other way around...

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Look, I bought the 50mm f/1.4 Art and I am extremely happy about it. I would say, you need a 50mm? Try the Sigma because it doesn't mean you get one with AF problems.
If the Sigma 85mm f/1.4 Art will get the same review praise as the 50mm f/1.4, I would buy it - if I would need this focal length
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Re: Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG Art in August? [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2014, 12:53:16 PM »
Maybe a close contender to the magic portrait king 85 1.2L II? If its AF is not too bad, with only half the price of 85 1.2L II, I'd seriously consider it. I was planning to get a 85 1.2L for this Christmas. Guess I'll wait a little longer.
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