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bvukich:
We have an awesome crop camera in the 7D, is it too much to ask for awesome glass to go with it?  If Canon were to finally come out with an EF-S "L" lens, what do you wish it would be?  Try to make it plausible, and technically possible.  Posting something silly like 4-800mm f/0.95 DO IS USM ABCDEFG is even more useless than any post of this type already inherently is.

The lens that would make me weak in the knees, tingly all over, and trip over my tongue while I run to the store...

EF-S 14-70mm f/2.8L H-IS USM
~$1699 List
~$1399 Street

Slightly more useful focal range than the current 17-55/2.8, 3-4 stop hybrid IS, weather sealing (no more sucking up dust while zooming).  I honestly don't think I'm asking for too much.  Am I?

Stone:

--- Quote from: bvukich on September 27, 2010, 09:13:31 PM ---We have an awesome crop camera in the 7D, is it too much to ask for awesome glass to go with it?  If Canon were to finally come out with an EF-S "L" lens, what do you wish it would be?  Try to make it plausible, and technically possible.  Posting something silly like 4-800mm f/0.95 DO IS USM ABCDEFG is even more useless than any post of this type already inherently is.

The lens that would make me weak in the knees, tingly all over, and trip over my tongue while I run to the store...

EF-S 14-70mm f/2.8L H-IS USM
~$1699 List
~$1399 Street

Slightly more useful focal range than the current 17-55/2.8, 3-4 stop hybrid IS, weather sealing (no more sucking up dust while zooming).  I honestly don't think I'm asking for too much.  Am I?

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I think you might be asking for a leeeeetle too much.  ;D

1st, it would make the 24-70 which is NOT a light lens by anyone's standards feel like a paperweight, that's a ton of glass you're asking for.

2nd, L lenses are strictly EF mount,  they can be used on any body from a Rebel to a 1Ds.  Making it EF-S means it won't mount up to the 5D or either of the 1D flagships, why build such a monster lens if the pros who would be more likely to buy it can't use it?

And finally, you will not get a constant 2.8, 5x, weather sealed, 4-stop IS USM L zoom for less than $2k.  Hell, I don't think Canon would sell that lens for any less than $4K.

It would be a killer lens but it just ain't gonna happen.........

unfocused:

--- Quote ---I honestly don't think I'm asking for too much.  Am I?
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Maybe a little, but not as much as others might think.  I really like my 15-85 EF-S lens, although I wish it were a little faster. Sharpness and build quality are both very good. An f2.8 might be too much to ask, but I'd pay a premium to have a constant f 3.5 and if I had to go down to 15-70, that wouldn't bother me much.

I don't agree that "pros" wouldn't use or need "L" Quality EF-S lenses. That presumes that "pros" only use full frame or APS-H bodies. I suspect there are a lot of people out there earning their living from photography who are using 7Ds. And, as technology advances, I think you'll see more.

The whole "L" lens issue is pretty murky in my opinion. Basically an "L" lens is whatever Canon wants it to be. Sometimes it represents better weather sealing, sometimes it represents a faster lens, sometimes it represents superior sharpness. But it's not always consistent. Ultimately, I don't care if Canon puts an "L" after the EF-S lens, I would just like to see them putting out more high quality EF-S lenses.

There is a market for better EF-S lenses. In fact, one could argue that the new 70-300 "L" zoom is really an EF-S lens, in that Canon is clearly marketing it to crop sensor users as well as full frame users.

bvukich:
I honestly don't think the weight would be that bad.  The front elements would still be monsters, but being an EF-S, the interior elements can be smaller than an otherwise identical EF.  IS also adds weight, but I can't imagine the final lens being any heavier than the 24-70.

Discounting the "L" on the pro1, true there have been no non-EF "L" lenses.  But who says that's set in stone?  And in reality, I really don't care if the lens has a red ring or not, as long as the build quality and sharpness are there.

My dilemma is this; for the long end I can usually get away with f/4, making the logical choice for me the quite excellent 70-200/4L IS. That part's easy.  On the short end I really need f/2.8.  So now what? I can get the 24-70, and be at 24 and wanting wider 60% of the time, so I'll need to fill in the bottom end with a 10-22 or the 16-35 (preferably, since I spend most of my time from about 20-35).  Or I can go with the 17-55/2.8 and be wanting a bit longer the other 40% of the time.

That's what brings me to my dream lens, 14-70/2.8.  I think it would be the perfect walk around lens for 90% of mid to high end crop shooters, and an ideal upgrade path for xxD and 7D coming from a kit lens, or in lieu of the kit lens entirely.  Yes, it would cannibalize sales of some of the current EF & EF-S lens lineup, but with it being a $1500-2000 lens I can't see how that would be that bad of a thing from Canon's perspective.  More of an up-sell then true cannibalization. Plus it would be a serious draw to the Canon platform for mid market/pro-sumer/serious amateurs.

From what I read, crop is Canon's money maker.  They either need to get serious about it, and build it into a complete 1st class platform, or finally bring some low price FF bodies (<$2K) to market so us low budget peons can play too.  I just feel stranded where I am now with Canon, limited by current crop options, but the jump to FF is too big.

neuroanatomist:

--- Quote from: Stone on September 27, 2010, 10:32:20 PM ---L lenses are strictly EF mount...

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Really?  Tell that to this L lens with its red ring:

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