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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 07:32:41 PM »
Anyone know which lens this is? Is it just the 200-400? Think I see
The extender bulk there.
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2014, 07:32:41 PM »

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2014, 07:37:59 PM »
It looks like the 200-400mm F/4L 1.4

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2014, 07:41:39 PM »
It looks like the 200-400mm F/4L 1.4
It looks like it, I just thought it was bigger from other pictures I've seen, now
I want one, lol.
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2014, 07:44:51 PM »
I want one too  :)

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2014, 07:47:45 PM »
The front element and hood don't appear as large as similar angle shots of the 200-400, the hood particularly looks smaller when compared to the camera body.

Trouble with thinking of a 100-400 MkII being a 100-400 f4.5-f5.6 with TC makes it an f6-f8 lens half the time. Not too sure that would make many happy, plus the additional cost of the built in TC would be prohibitive for the current 100-400 price point, even with a "Canon MkII surcharge".

It would give the much acclaimed and expensive Nikon 80-400 an interesting competitor though, and the 400 f5.6 is still there for people who want a "cheap" tele.
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2014, 07:52:04 PM »
I agree with  you, I don't think that the TC 1.4 is a good idea on this lens.

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 11:00:34 PM »
You are both wrong.  A new 100-400 with a built-in TC would be an excellent upgrade.  The present 100-400 works well with a TC and a newer model with a built-in one would work even better.  A built-in TC gives better results, is faster to implement, and does not require exposing inside the camera to as much dust.

Myself and many others would not mind paying the extra cost for such a feature.

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2014, 11:00:34 PM »

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2014, 11:14:24 PM »
You are both wrong.  A new 100-400 with a built-in TC would be an excellent upgrade.  The present 100-400 works well with a TC and a newer model with a built-in one would work even better.  A built-in TC gives better results, is faster to implement, and does not require exposing inside the camera to as much dust.

Myself and many others would not mind paying the extra cost for such a feature.

How could I be wrong when I offered pros and cons for both sides of the suggestion?

As for not minding paying the extra, what if it was $3,999?
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2014, 12:05:19 AM »
You are both wrong. 

Cant wait to see your 12th Post   ???

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2014, 01:09:42 AM »
How could I be wrong when I offered pros and cons for both sides of the suggestion?

As for not minding paying the extra, what if it was $3,999?

I guess I missed the pros.  What if the extra was $399?

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2014, 01:19:48 AM »
Cant wait to see your 12th Post   ???

Oh, dear me, I guess you have posting seniority. 

If you are worried about my number of postings:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1300265/0#12403599

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2014, 01:26:00 AM »
What if the extra was $399?

What if we could all come to your house and smoke what you are smoking? A regular 1.4 TC is $499, the benchmark the 200-400 set for a built in one is for a substantial premium over that, for instance the Nikon 200-400 f4 costs $6,599, the Canon version with built in TC costs $11,799.

So bearing in mind the current 100-400 costs $1,699, and all MkII's have added at least a $1,000 to MkI prices, now put in a TC and you could easily be looking at $3,500-$4,500. The Nikon 80-400 sells for $2,695 with no TC.

I strongly suspect the only thing people will have to moan about any MkII 100-400 will be the price, oh, and that is is still a push pull design, or that it isn't a push pull design anymore!
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2014, 02:08:11 AM »
You are both wrong.  A new 100-400 with a built-in TC would be an excellent upgrade.  The present 100-400 works well with a TC and a newer model with a built-in one would work even better.  A built-in TC gives better results, is faster to implement, and does not require exposing inside the camera to as much dust.

Myself and many others would not mind paying the extra cost for such a feature.

yes it would be an excellent upgrade but I really doubt if it will happen. 100-400 is supposed to be an 'affordable' (unlike 200-400) lens so Canon would try to keep the costs down.

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2014, 02:08:11 AM »

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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2014, 03:12:49 AM »

Ultra secretive Canon treat their loyal expectant customers with contempt.


Really?
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2014, 07:49:29 AM »
The present 100-400 works well with a TC...

If by 'works well' you mean it's physically compatible, then I agree.  But if you mean 'delivers good optical performance,' then we obviously have different standards.

It's almost certainly moot, anyway.  Unless Canon puts f/8 AF into all of their subsequent dSLRs, they've not going to release a lens where the AF stops working when you flip in the TC.
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Re: World Cup started - no sign of 100-400L Mk2
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2014, 07:49:29 AM »