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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2014, 11:01:11 AM »
noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
return of eye controlled autofocus

I had the same thought when reading it.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2014, 11:01:11 AM »

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2014, 11:03:56 AM »
If true, the 7D Mark II's viewfinder will be the exact same size as the 5D Mark III:

5D3 - 1.00 / 1.00 x 0.71 = 0.71
7D2 - 1.00 / 1.60 x 1.15 = 0.71

Crop sensor fans would be elated.

Without other changes, that would make it 2.56x dimmer (or, 39% as bright, if you prefer).

I don't know anything about viewfinders.  Could you elaborate on why it would become dimmer?

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2014, 11:17:59 AM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2014, 11:21:50 AM »
With all the long lens cameras covering the World Cup, I find it hard to believe there isn't even an incidental shot of the 7D Mk.II - that is if it's even there?

It is not hard to believe.  With thousands of dollars on the line for that perfect shot I am sure the photographers are all aiming on the field.  If it is there it either looks like a 1dx without the 1dx written on it or it looks like a 5d/ 7d without 5d/ 7d written on it so it would be hard to notice unless you are looking for it.   Maybe once one of the photog's comes home and happens to look through the pictures that will not make them money there would be the possibility that they accidently got a good shot of a camera they do not recognize. 

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2014, 11:35:33 AM »
I find it hard to believe that everyone there is a professional.  No hobbyist shooters, schmucks with iPhones, Canon SX50's?  Who was the guy that took the shot at the last Olympics of all the photographers pointed toward the sports action?  We need a shot from "THAT GUY"!

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2014, 11:55:00 AM »
If true, the 7D Mark II's viewfinder will be the exact same size as the 5D Mark III:

5D3 - 1.00 / 1.00 x 0.71 = 0.71
7D2 - 1.00 / 1.60 x 1.15 = 0.71

Crop sensor fans would be elated.

Without other changes, that would make it 2.56x dimmer (or, 39% as bright, if you prefer).

I don't know anything about viewfinders.  Could you elaborate on why it would become dimmer?

The sensor in the 5D is 2.56x bigger, which means so is the mirror and thus the portion of the lens' image circle you are viewing.  At the same f-stop (f-stop controls "brightness" or "light intensity" [technically illuminance]), more area means more light.  Likewise, less area means less light.  If you spread that reduced light over the same area of your vision (subtended solid angle), it's going to be dimmer.
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2014, 12:13:37 PM »
I find it hard to believe that everyone there is a professional.  No hobbyist shooters, schmucks with iPhones, Canon SX50's?  Who was the guy that took the shot at the last Olympics of all the photographers pointed toward the sports action?  We need a shot from "THAT GUY"!

Just Say'in..

Yes, you are right.  Also with the 1000's of people in those stands I am sure there a few of "us" that are interested in the 7d2.  Personally if I were there I would make an attempt to get as close as I could to the photogs to see what I could see. 

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2014, 12:13:37 PM »

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2014, 12:32:34 PM »
If true, the 7D Mark II's viewfinder will be the exact same size as the 5D Mark III:

5D3 - 1.00 / 1.00 x 0.71 = 0.71
7D2 - 1.00 / 1.60 x 1.15 = 0.71

Crop sensor fans would be elated.

Without other changes, that would make it 2.56x dimmer (or, 39% as bright, if you prefer).

I don't know anything about viewfinders.  Could you elaborate on why it would become dimmer?

The sensor in the 5D is 2.56x bigger, which means so is the mirror and thus the portion of the lens' image circle you are viewing.  At the same f-stop (f-stop controls "brightness" or "light intensity" [technically illuminance]), more area means more light.  Likewise, less area means less light.  If you spread that reduced light over the same area of your vision (subtended solid angle), it's going to be dimmer.

Thanks for the explanation! I forgot about how the difference in sensor size makes in how bright the viewfinder appears.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2014, 12:59:52 PM »
Eye-controlled focus system like previous 1C model???  8)

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2014, 01:03:25 PM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

I was thinking the same.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2014, 01:41:34 PM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

I was thinking the same.

I was wondering is the bump was related to the rumored wifi and GPS...

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2014, 02:24:47 PM »
What are those funny 1 series looking bodies at the world cup where instead of regular black prism hump on top, the front part is like shiny white/yellow, almost like some sort of mini-flash integrated into the hump? (Or more likely some guy, for some reason, just using reflective, bright tape on the front of each of the humps on his two bodies  ;D BUT why would someone do that, normally they try to take out bright, not add bright and reflective, if anything, so might it actually be some new body??? I wouldn't have thought a 7D2 in a full on 1 series integrated grip body though, one of the pair of guys who were using the pair of weird shiny hump 1 series was also shooting something small that looked like a 7D, maybe the new one is 1DX2 or 2D with integrated mini flash in hump? OR, most likely just some guys taping their names in shiny fluorescent yellow tape on the top  ;D, just couldn't get a clear look from the video feeds).
Have screencaps but don't think it's worth bothering to upload and post.
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2014, 03:18:30 PM »
sounds like.. $2000+ lol

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2014, 04:03:44 PM »
With all the long lens cameras covering the World Cup, I find it hard to believe there isn't even an incidental shot of the 7D Mk.II - that is if it's even there?

There's probably a few there, and they're probably disguised well. They probably say "5D Mark III" on them. :)

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2014, 06:02:32 AM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

I throw this out mainly as target practice for those who seem to gleefully shoot down the idea at every opportunity, but could the larger viewfinder housing be for the larger prism necessary for an APS-H sensor? Of course, this would make the camera a "Successor to the 7D market space" rather than, strictly speaking, a "7D Mark II."

The 1D IV stays stubbornly expensive on the used market, which suggests there are a lot of people like me who appreciate the balance of increased reach from telephotos against a near full-frame view angle and depth of field. I've considered buying a 1D IV on a few occasions, but have always shied away from paying more for fewer megapixels and no wi-fi built-in.
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2014, 06:02:32 AM »