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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2014, 06:02:32 AM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

I throw this out mainly as target practice for those who seem to gleefully shoot down the idea at every opportunity, but could the larger viewfinder housing be for the larger prism necessary for an APS-H sensor? Of course, this would make the camera a "Successor to the 7D market space" rather than, strictly speaking, a "7D Mark II."

The 1D IV stays stubbornly expensive on the used market, which suggests there are a lot of people like me who appreciate the balance of increased reach from telephotos against a near full-frame view angle and depth of field. I've considered buying a 1D IV on a few occasions, but have always shied away from paying more for fewer megapixels and no wi-fi built-in.
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2014, 06:02:32 AM »

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2014, 06:29:14 AM »
What are those funny 1 series looking bodies at the world cup where instead of regular black prism hump on top, the front part is like shiny white/yellow, almost like some sort of mini-flash integrated into the hump? (Or more likely some guy, for some reason, just using reflective, bright tape on the front of each of the humps on his two bodies  ;D BUT why would someone do that, normally they try to take out bright, not add bright and reflective, if anything, so might it actually be some new body??? I wouldn't have thought a 7D2 in a full on 1 series integrated grip body though, one of the pair of guys who were using the pair of weird shiny hump 1 series was also shooting something small that looked like a 7D, maybe the new one is 1DX2 or 2D with integrated mini flash in hump? OR, most likely just some guys taping their names in shiny fluorescent yellow tape on the top  ;D, just couldn't get a clear look from the video feeds).
Have screencaps but don't think it's worth bothering to upload and post.

That's tape ;) I figured for hire/ID related purposes, maybe?... but YES! There are photographers with non-gripped bodies with larger viewfinders and markings where the 5D3's 'Mark III' badge resides - and I do recall struggling to see a mode dial. These were being shot by people also wielding 1Dx looking bodies - would Sports Pros shoot something as slow as the 5D3? These bodies were equipped with much shorter lenses...
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2014, 08:07:28 AM »
An announcment...and an offically leaked spy shot can't be far around the corner.
And when it does....this place will go into melt down. I might avoid it for a few days until the fever calms down.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2014, 08:17:09 AM »
An announcment...and an offically leaked spy shot can't be far around the corner.
And when it does....this place will go into melt down. I might avoid it for a few days until the fever calms down.
*lol* really funny thoughts leading to really funny daydreams...
Thank you for making me laugh. And I think you are right.

I am lucky just to be interested in Canons DSLR body releases but not wanting to buy a 7D2.
So I can watch this with much lower blood pressure and pulse ;)
sometimes you have to close your eyes to see properly.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2014, 02:28:09 PM »
We’re told the top plate has a noticeably bigger bump around the viewfinder than the current EOS 7D.
A hybrid viewfinder perhaps?  Or maybe the return of eye controlled autofocus?

I throw this out mainly as target practice for those who seem to gleefully shoot down the idea at every opportunity, but could the larger viewfinder housing be for the larger prism necessary for an APS-H sensor? Of course, this would make the camera a "Successor to the 7D market space" rather than, strictly speaking, a "7D Mark II."


It may also have something to do with heat dissipation, something that is always of concern if you have a camera with advanced video features.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014, 02:55:03 PM »
I throw this out mainly as target practice for those who seem to gleefully shoot down the idea at every opportunity, but could the larger viewfinder housing be for the larger prism necessary for an APS-H sensor? Of course, this would make the camera a "Successor to the 7D market space" rather than, strictly speaking, a "7D Mark II."

I don't think that any successor or replacement for the 7D will be incompatible with EF-S lenses.  That would just drive a lot of near-certain buyers down to the 70D.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2014, 04:35:44 PM »
I don't think that any successor or replacement for the 7D will be incompatible with EF-S lenses.  That would just drive a lot of near-certain buyers down to the 70D.

Exactly!

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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2014, 04:35:44 PM »

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2014, 06:07:35 PM »
I don't think that any successor or replacement for the 7D will be incompatible with EF-S lenses.  That would just drive a lot of near-certain buyers down to the 70D.

Exactly!

So this brings up two interesting questions:

1.  Would a 1.3x crop mirror clear the back of all of the EF-S lenses?  If so, they could just crop the image when an EF-S lens is attached.

2.  If not, how many of Canon's EF-S lenses have a back-focus distance that's short enough to force Canon to disable them in a 1.3x crop?

Of course, I keep wishing Canon would build a dual-mode full-frame/crop camera with a slightly more complex mirror assembly that slides out of the way of an EF-S lens before it flips, but....

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2014, 06:15:26 PM »
I throw this out mainly as target practice for those who seem to gleefully shoot down the idea at every opportunity, but could the larger viewfinder housing be for the larger prism necessary for an APS-H sensor? Of course, this would make the camera a "Successor to the 7D market space" rather than, strictly speaking, a "7D Mark II."

I don't think that any successor or replacement for the 7D will be incompatible with EF-S lenses.  That would just drive a lot of near-certain buyers down to the 70D.

That argument gets made a lot, but I don't understand it. This camera will be at most 2nd down from top of the line. I don't see the design being constrained by compatibility with the very lowest tier of Canon lenses.

As it stands now, there is not nearly enough distinction between the 7D and 70D. This new camera will certainly correct that with new features and design improvements, including *possibly* a larger sensor. I'd be surprised if these improvements did not push the price north of $2000.00 (I believe the 7D was 1700 at introduction about four years ago.) By my count, only 3 EF-S lenses top $600.00 in price. That's two completely different markets.
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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2014, 07:12:24 PM »
Maybe the GPS antenna explains the reported larger bump...

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2014, 02:55:15 PM »
What are those funny 1 series looking bodies at the world cup where instead of regular black prism hump on top, the front part is like shiny white/yellow, almost like some sort of mini-flash integrated into the hump? (Or more likely some guy, for some reason, just using reflective, bright tape on the front of each of the humps on his two bodies  ;D BUT why would someone do that, normally they try to take out bright, not add bright and reflective, if anything, so might it actually be some new body??? I wouldn't have thought a 7D2 in a full on 1 series integrated grip body though, one of the pair of guys who were using the pair of weird shiny hump 1 series was also shooting something small that looked like a 7D, maybe the new one is 1DX2 or 2D with integrated mini flash in hump? OR, most likely just some guys taping their names in shiny fluorescent yellow tape on the top  ;D, just couldn't get a clear look from the video feeds).
Have screencaps but don't think it's worth bothering to upload and post.

That's tape ;) I figured for hire/ID related purposes, maybe?... but YES! There are photographers with non-gripped bodies with larger viewfinders and markings where the 5D3's 'Mark III' badge resides - and I do recall struggling to see a mode dial. These were being shot by people also wielding 1Dx looking bodies - would Sports Pros shoot something as slow as the 5D3? These bodies were equipped with much shorter lenses...

Yeah I kinda figured tape, but it seemed to be unusually reflective, almost flashy fluorescent, most photogs don't use that sort of tape for marking, but I guess these ones did hah.

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Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2014, 02:55:15 PM »