Nikon D800 Outed?

[NXT1000]

what is this? i thought canon is the megapixel king, and nikon years behind? But now it seem that for a short time, nikon might be the megapixel king, if the rumor is true of course. I hope so.

[Sunnystate]

If you try to "push" $11,000.00 lenses replacements, you would to build flagship cameras that do not support converters...
Canon is to obvious, out of control milking is going on like there is no tomorrow... !

Him and the not insignificant crowd of people who use a high resolution camera with a crop factor - bird photographers, sports and news types...I doubt many are smiling benevolently on Canon's youthful blunder of the f/5.6 AF limit, either.

I'm a bird 'tog too, and I'm also surprised at the f/5.6 AF limit: but I don't believe for a second that Canon will change its direction just because I - or anyone else - complains on an internet forum about it or threatens to spend my hard-earned elswhere.

They're not in the business of building me my camera: all any of us can ever do is hope that what they do build ticks enough of our own personal boxes.

[motorhead]

Reading comments posted here and on other sites, it seems that Canon will struggle to convince users on both sides of the crop/high ISO : high MP argument that the 1Dx is a good compromise. Certainly I'm not convinced and I'm firmly on the high MP side as I've already indicated.

Nikon entering the market with 36MP will focus attention in the marketing meetings at Canon HQ, or I hope it will.

[Isaac]

We heard from nikonrumors that the D800 is coming soon. Pictures were released of the D800 that many said were real. Nikon have a big announcement on 3-4 December. We understand there must be a delay of the D800 but how much delay could we expect?

Hopefully it'll get announced on 3-4 December thereby putting pressure on Canon.

[motorhead]

Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

I also hear that the 200-400 is still only at an early stage in its development. A prototype exists, but its a long way from production.

The presentation was excellent. The Canon staff were honest and straightforward and they really knew their stuff. We were treated to lunch as well as teas/coffees and encouraged to take the cameras and or lenses to the local wildlife lakes to try them for ourselves. That included the new range of 400 to 800mm primes.

[smirkypants]

I also hear that the 200-400 is still only at an early stage in its development. A prototype exists, but its a long way from production.

I have almost jumped ship to Nikon a couple of times because of their truly fantastic 200-400 f4. Canon has nothing that can match it in terms of flexibility/IQ and "long way from production" seriously bums me out. Pair that with the D800 and it's getting hard to stay in the Canon camp.

[dilbert]

Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800. The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

Which part of that did they say?
Did their answer include "However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!" or is that your own conclusion?

After Canon's lead in the MP race a few years ago, Sony/Nikon are now thumping Canon in every segment of the DSLR market when it comes to MP.

[motorhead]

Dilbert,

None of it is my conjecture, its all direct from one Canon employees mouth. How much is his own guesswork I have no idea, but I do believe he was being as honest with me as he could be.

I'd guess that any D800 response will have to await a management meeting before any research even starts, so its bound to be a long time coming.   

[Fab_Angilletta]

Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

what? no response to D800 for a couple of years? i can't believe this, no.
canon will respond with 5D mark 3 but i don't think it be 36MP maybe 32MP

[Meh]

Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

what? no response to D800 for a couple of years? i can't believe this, no.
canon will respond with 5D mark 3 but i don't think it be 36MP maybe 32MP

By "no response for a couple of years" the rep could mean only that nothing is coming up (i.e. R&D done, field testing underway, release imminent) that will match the 36MP.

If Canon didn't already have a plan to introduce an ~36MP FF sensor and were caught by surprise at Nikon doing so, then it would take them some time to go through the usual development phases.  However, it's also possible they have multiple sensors in development all the time and might choose among them based on what Nikon does.

[Fab_Angilletta]

i don' think those reps can give trustable information. Canon is keeping the development of 5D mark 3 such a secret, they will not tell their reps to tell people. i think they are preparing to release it after D800 official anoncement.

[dilbert]

Dilbert,

None of it is my conjecture, its all direct from one Canon employees mouth. How much is his own guesswork I have no idea, but I do believe he was being as honest with me as he could be.

I'd guess that any D800 response will have to await a management meeting before any research even starts, so its bound to be a long time coming.

Interesting. I wonder what that means for the sensor in what will be the 5D3 then?

It would seem that if we're not going to get a 30-something MP camera then maybe tradeoffs have been made in favour of other characteristics? (DR, noise, etc)

Will be interesting! Wait and see, I guess!

[Isaac]

ONLY time will tell 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

Too bad, the D4 rumor has already "obsoleted" the D800 rumor... Lulz.

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Maybe we will now have a low megapixel war.