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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2011, 10:30:11 AM »
Reading comments posted here and on other sites, it seems that Canon will struggle to convince users on both sides of the crop/high ISO : high MP argument that the 1Dx is a good compromise. Certainly I'm not convinced and I'm firmly on the high MP side as I've already indicated.

Nikon entering the market with 36MP will focus attention in the marketing meetings at Canon HQ, or I hope it will.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2011, 10:30:11 AM »

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2011, 08:48:46 AM »
We heard from nikonrumors that the D800 is coming soon. Pictures were released of the D800 that many said were real. Nikon have a big announcement on 3-4 December. We understand there must be a delay of the D800 but how much delay could we expect?

Hopefully it'll get announced on 3-4 December thereby putting pressure on Canon.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #47 on: November 24, 2011, 09:49:53 AM »
Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

I also hear that the 200-400 is still only at an early stage in its development. A prototype exists, but its a long way from production.

The presentation was excellent. The Canon staff were honest and straightforward and they really knew their stuff. We were treated to lunch as well as teas/coffees and encouraged to take the cameras and or lenses to the local wildlife lakes to try them for ourselves. That included the new range of 400 to 800mm primes.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #48 on: November 24, 2011, 12:56:16 PM »
I also hear that the 200-400 is still only at an early stage in its development. A prototype exists, but its a long way from production.
I have almost jumped ship to Nikon a couple of times because of their truly fantastic 200-400 f4. Canon has nothing that can match it in terms of flexibility/IQ and "long way from production" seriously bums me out. Pair that with the D800 and it's getting hard to stay in the Canon camp.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #49 on: November 24, 2011, 02:33:45 PM »
Dilbert,

None of it is my conjecture, its all direct from one Canon employees mouth. How much is his own guesswork I have no idea, but I do believe he was being as honest with me as he could be.

I'd guess that any D800 response will have to await a management meeting before any research even starts, so its bound to be a long time coming.   

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2011, 03:16:11 PM »
Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

what? no response to D800 for a couple of years? i can't believe this, no.
canon will respond with 5D mark 3 but i don't think it be 36MP maybe 32MP

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2011, 03:27:34 PM »
Spent the morning at a Canon presentation on the new 1Dx and grabbed the opportunity to ask the direct question about how Canon are likely to respond to the 36MP D800.The answer was that there are no plans to introduce a 1Ds replacement, but that this does not rule out some other response. However this means that there will be no response for possibly as long as a couple of years!

what? no response to D800 for a couple of years? i can't believe this, no.
canon will respond with 5D mark 3 but i don't think it be 36MP maybe 32MP

By "no response for a couple of years" the rep could mean only that nothing is coming up (i.e. R&D done, field testing underway, release imminent) that will match the 36MP.

If Canon didn't already have a plan to introduce an ~36MP FF sensor and were caught by surprise at Nikon doing so, then it would take them some time to go through the usual development phases.  However, it's also possible they have multiple sensors in development all the time and might choose among them based on what Nikon does.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2011, 03:27:34 PM »

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2011, 03:47:40 PM »
i don' think those reps can give trustable information. Canon is keeping the development of 5D mark 3 such a secret, they will not tell their reps to tell people. i think they are preparing to release it after D800 official anoncement.

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2011, 05:41:46 PM »
ONLY time will tell  ;D

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #54 on: December 12, 2011, 10:52:24 AM »
Too bad, the D4 rumor has already "obsoleted" the D800 rumor... Lulz.
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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2011, 05:53:27 PM »
Maybe we will now have a low megapixel war. 

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2011, 07:55:18 PM »
Maybe we will now have a low megapixel war. 

I am all for that!  At least now (assuming the rumors are true) it is not the MP per say that will make the difference (16 vs 18) but more the overall product design and all the tech stuff required to squeeze low light performance from these sensor.  I think we can only benefit.  I think in the current line up (Canon vs Nikon) the approaches were so different that it became a he said she said type of argumentation with two distinct camp.

Now that both company seem to converge toward a low MP high speed camera and a high MP camera, the story will be different...
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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2011, 08:32:10 PM »
Maybe we will now have a low megapixel war. 

I am all for that!  At least now (assuming the rumors are true) it is not the MP per say that will make the difference (16 vs 18) but more the overall product design and all the tech stuff required to squeeze low light performance from these sensor.  I think we can only benefit.  I think in the current line up (Canon vs Nikon) the approaches were so different that it became a he said she said type of argumentation with two distinct camp.

Now that both company seem to converge toward a low MP high speed camera and a high MP camera, the story will be different...

I think that was a joke.  If not, I have a fabulously low .5 megapixel digital camera I'll sell you.   ;D

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Re: Nikon D800 Outed?
« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2011, 08:32:10 PM »