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New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« on: July 28, 2014, 01:38:26 PM »

We’re told to expect new Canon L primes, but none will be announced in 2014.


The first one we can expect is a new 35L in early 2015, this has been rumored since the 24L was announced. There have been lots of patents for the optical formula, but nothing has come of it.


The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?


There may have been development delays in L lens development as Canon has been working hard building a cinema lens lineup.


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New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« on: July 28, 2014, 01:38:26 PM »

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 01:43:04 PM »
I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 01:53:07 PM »
2014 is the Yeah of the Lens!*


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I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 01:53:52 PM »
New 35L & 135L IS  ::)
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 02:01:30 PM »
A new 50 L that's "a lot smaller" ?? Makes no sense whatsoever ..
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 02:02:49 PM »
Still having my hopes up for a new 50mm nonL prime for this year :) All that I basicly need is 50/1.4 with reliable and predictable ring-USM AF motor. Better sharpness and contrast on par with new 35/2 IS could not hurt either :)
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 02:20:39 PM »
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 02:20:39 PM »

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 02:31:38 PM »
I'd still  like to see them best Nikon's 12-24.

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I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 02:34:06 PM »
Canon has been working a lot on cinema lenses.  Their broadcast group does not seem to be directly involved, so the DSLR design and production has been bogged down.  Nikon also has a lack of resources for designing new lenses.  Apparently, Sigma has added resources(Tooling, manufacturing, and designers) to put out a lot of new lenses.  This is probably hurting Nikon more than Canon, but both must be feeling pressure.

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 03:16:32 PM »
2014 is the Yeah of the Lens!*


*disclaimer: may actually be next year


I'm assuming this has zero bearing on the (rumored) upcoming 100-400mm ii... I'd feel more confident if there reports of the current 100-400mm being discontinued like the 7D.
If anything, it basically confirms the 100-400. It won't be a new 200/300/400mm prime. It wont be an update to the 55-250, 18-135, etc (all just recently done with STM). So, what does that really leave?

I guess they could update the 15-85 or 17-55, but I'd doubt that. And they just re-did all their wide and mid-range zooms, so it cant be those. Basically only leaves the 28-135 and the 100-400. And since there really isnt any room for a 28-135 update...

I'd love it if they updated the 28–135 to be a 24–135, to be the full-frame equivalent for the 15–85.  The crop bodies got that treatment back in 2009, but the full-frame cameras don't have anything similar.  And while they're at it, they should tighten up the tolerances to fix the extreme lens creep problems (not a creep so much as a flop).  Basically turn it into a solid full-frame kit lens.

Then again, I'd love a full-frame equivalent to the 18–135 lens—basically an IS update to the 28–200.

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 03:25:33 PM »
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 03:32:58 PM »
I'd still  like to see them best Nikon's 12-24.
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 03:46:53 PM »
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.

f/1.4 is plenty, and it keeps the weight and price down a bit. I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 03:46:53 PM »

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 04:27:56 PM »
I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !

Me too.  That would be beautiful!

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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 04:30:22 PM »
The second is a new 50L in late 2015. The new lens is said to be a lot smaller and lighter, perhaps a drop to f/1.4?

Exactly what I was suggesting just a few days ago on the Photokina thread, the new consumer 50mm IS at f1.8 or even f2.0 makes way for a much better 50mm f1.4 in the same mold as the 24mm f1.4 II L - same with the 85mm, which could also go to f1.4

They would lose their bragging rights for f/1.2 primes. I do not see this scenario as probable. At least not for the 85/1.2, which is amazing lens even wide open, so why "lessen" the lens to a "mere" f/1.4.

f/1.4 is plenty, and it keeps the weight and price down a bit. I'm hoping for a 50mm with IS, equivalent quality to the 35 f/2 IS !

I know, for me f/1.4 is more than enough, I rarely shoot below 1.8-2 anyways. I meant it as a marketing point. It implies something exclusive, something special, when you have 1.2 lens while other competitors start at 1.4 (and that the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 is barely noticeable etc. does not count in marketing gimmicks :) )...

Personally, I'd settle for 50/1.8 IS USM anyday, if its IQ is comparable to 35/2 IS USM at equal aperture openings.
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Re: New Canon L Primes, but Not Until 2015 [CR2)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 04:30:22 PM »