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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2014, 05:05:50 PM »
worth waiting for

Was debating the new 16-35 IS 4 to replace the 16-35 2.8II, but only for the IQ - I don't need the IS on an UWA. Now, I can think about having 11-70 mm covered with the same IQ as the 24-70 2.8 II. If my IQ wish is true, I will happily pay the price. Possible in 2015?

I am in the same boat. There's no real IQ improvement in the 16-35 f/4L IS. They are the same at equivalent apertures. The fact that they are the same weight and size, and that the 16-35 f/2.8L II goes to 2.8 convinced me to skip the f/4, but an 11/12/14 - 24 is more tempting. I realllly hope they go with f/4 on this to keep the weight down, because f/2.8 is bound to be big and heavy, not to mention much more expensive.

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2014, 05:05:50 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2014, 05:15:28 PM »
This is where I don't get why Canon would make this lens f/2.8 leading to a huge size & cost.  Action shooters are much more likely to use a fisheye instead of an 11mm lens, and I'm not seeing much bokeh this wide.  Also, with today's high ISO bodies, and lenses this wide, who can't handhold at 1/10-1/30s?  I thought that the f/4 aperture was the smartest decision Canon made with the 16-35 f/4 IS.  I love fast lenses and would kill for this proposed lens, but I just don't see the need for f/2.8 on this lens.

Then again, it's CR1, so we're probably just making fools of ourselves by discussing this ridiculous rumor.

Perhaps it was easier to get around Nikon's patents by going to 11 rather than 12 or 14 at the wide end...

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2014, 05:17:21 PM »
Price drops across lenses seems likely. Here in New Zealand it's already happened, most lenses are about $100 - $300 cheaper than they used to be, or more for the really big lenses.

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2014, 05:22:05 PM »
This is where I don't get why Canon would make this lens f/2.8 leading to a huge size & cost.  Action shooters are much more likely to use a fisheye instead of an 11mm lens, and I'm not seeing much bokeh this wide.  Also, with today's high ISO bodies, and lenses this wide, who can't handhold at 1/10-1/30s?  I thought that the f/4 aperture was the smartest decision Canon made with the 16-35 f/4 IS.  I love fast lenses and would kill for this proposed lens, but I just don't see the need for f/2.8 on this lens.

Then again, it's CR1, so we're probably just making fools of ourselves by discussing this ridiculous rumor.
Agreed - however, where's all the people that were crying that the 16-35 came out as a 4.0?

Two weeks or less ago you'd think canon killed their puppy for not coming out with a fast UWA to complete against the 14-24/2.8 nikon now everyone's complaining that it's a) a crap ton wider b) not priced less than the nikkor (like really people?!) c) not 4.0.

this will be very hard to get the corners in critical focus from infinity - can't really to around F/4.0 with critical precision of 2Lp's versus a standard calculator which uses .030mm as it's CoC.

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2014, 05:24:45 PM »
NOW we're talkin"!!!

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2014, 05:25:47 PM »
OK now
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2014, 05:30:33 PM »
Since no one else has said it...  "This one goes to eleven."

that is a +1 comment if ever there has been one  ;D

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2014, 05:30:33 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2014, 05:31:12 PM »
And the REALLY bad news is that it will probably come bundled only with the new 7D replacement for preorders.  So we are looking at an initial kit purchase of close to 7000.00!!!

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2014, 05:43:39 PM »
Don't you guys think it's an approach that Canon usually gets its f/2.8 without IS (e.g 16-25/2.8, 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8 ) out the door first?  That can showcase what they can achieve.

Then sometime later they release their f/4 IS variants (e.g. 16-35/4 IS, 24-70/4 IS, 70-200/4 IS) to suit different needs.

Also, a fast (f/2.8 or even faster) UWA is important to night sky photography at least, e.g. Milky Way shots.
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2014, 05:47:48 PM »


[/quote]I am in the same boat. There's no real IQ improvement in the 16-35 f/4L IS. They are the same at equivalent apertures. The fact that they are the same weight and size, and that the 16-35 f/2.8L II goes to 2.8 convinced me to skip the f/4, but an 11/12/14 - 24 is more tempting. I realllly hope they go with f/4 on this to keep the weight down, because f/2.8 is bound to be big and heavy, not to mention much more expensive.
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I agree about the IQ between the f4 and 2.8II - contrast looks marginally better at f4 w the former, but not really worth replacing a lens over and at f8 where I shoot landscape from a tripod, its definitely not worth a switch (pending further data).

11-24 w or w/o f 2.8 is intriguing. I'd go with the best IQ formula and only prefer 2.8 if it did not degrade the IQ at f4 and above. Size, weight + cost less important for the applications I envisage.
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2014, 05:52:03 PM »
DUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuudddddddddddeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.................................

This is totally up to eleven!!!

I'm pretty sure this might happen, I hope!!!
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2014, 05:54:40 PM »
And the REALLY bad news is that it will probably come bundled only with the new 7D replacement for preorders.  So we are looking at an initial kit purchase of close to 7000.00!!!
East Wind, your an optimist :)  The more likely bad news is that it will first appear when bundled with the 1DXII for $17,000 when they both appear 7 years from now.
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2014, 06:08:01 PM »
Eleven milimetres? Rectilinear? F/2.8? What will be the shape of the front element? Some kind of blackhole device to bend the lightrays? :D

Since I love my 16-35/4L IS with the capability of applying LEE filters, this lens will be interesting to watch, but nothing I'd wished for. Still, interesting news.
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2014, 06:08:01 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2014, 06:20:14 PM »
Sounds fun... yes, I'll have one please ;-)

If so, I'd be curious as to how it compares with the 14mm 2.8L II (apart from killing it's 2nd hand value).

11mm is getting close to what I can get with s side to side stitch of the TS-E17.

Just as well, I never use filters on wide lenses...

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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2014, 06:22:28 PM »
I too am skeptical about a zoom as wide as 11mm. I hope they don't sacrifice too much IQ for it.

My ideal UWA is a 14-30mm f/2.8. I'd gladly give up 5mm on the long end for 2mm on the wide in regards to the current 16-35mm. And despite the number of people here who don't think f/2.8 is necessary, it comes in very hand for wedding receptions and night photography.
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Re: Canon EF 11-24 f/2.8L Coming [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2014, 06:22:28 PM »