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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 03:07:57 AM »
16K? Still too much, I'd like to see the price around 10-12K, then I'd consider getting it.

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2011, 03:07:57 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2011, 04:12:30 AM »
It's...too...damn...BIG.

It looks like a stupid 80's full VHS camcorder.

Have you even looked at the specs list? The C300 is DSLR form factor. The body is about the size of a 1D and weighs just slightly more.


Have you held a t2i?

or the even more ridiculous raw horsepower per ounce gh2?

It is pretty close to the 1d in weight, less so in shape.
But i'd never buy a 1d either.

I'd also expect a detachable lcd for that kind of $$$.

The bottom line - discrete filmmaking is becoming fairly standard.
The iphone 4s is nipping at the heels of professional gear as far as resolved detail.

I would much rather have a big intuitive N64-like controller with a sensor/image processor attached.
The c300 is neither groundbreaking nor intuitive.
Undoubtedly, the image is incredible.

But computers are in everything
3 of them inside the new 1d.
is programmable follow focus through AF really an astronomically out-of-this-world idea?
The t2i has it (sort of).

2 steps forward.
42 steps back.
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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2011, 04:27:26 PM »
The DSLR form factor is pretty much better in EVERYWAY for shooting video than the traditional video camera body.




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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2011, 12:19:03 PM »


I'd also expect a detachable lcd for that kind of $$$.

Even if it could, you don't want to rely on the lcd to pull focus because you just can't. External monitor or a z-finder are your only alternatives.

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2011, 04:29:14 PM »


I'd also expect a detachable lcd for that kind of $$$.

Even if it could, you don't want to rely on the lcd to pull focus because you just can't. External monitor or a z-finder are your only alternatives.


http://store.redrockmicro.com/microremote
The whole world waits... (and has been for 18 months)

http://www.lightcraftworkshop-shop.com/product/139
If Canon released a firmware update that works on a per lens basis (many L lenses have thousands of steps, and basic EFs have much less)
Something that can make the quicker steps with a smooth transition.
Then this could become a seriously viable option.

But if they did that, who the hell would buy the manual focus only c300?
It's a very "niche" market - video (that needs good focus).
and because of that, we have things like this:
http://www.filmtools.com/arriff5hd.html

The detachable LCD could still be wired =)
Wireless hdmi (Cube) does lag far too much for pulling focus.
I don't like z-finders or EVFs because of the % of time the camera is away from my body and moving around.
I don't like monitors because i can't justify spending $500-$6400 on a screen when we live in an ipad world.

The apps that can drive DSLRs are awesome!
But for some reason they're all missing video functions (like record).
And of course, lag over usb.

We live in a very cool world.
Just a few dumb caveats holding us back.
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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2011, 05:13:29 PM »
The bottom line - discrete filmmaking is becoming fairly standard.
The iphone 4s is nipping at the heels of professional gear as far as resolved detail.
I wouldn't get one either, but I doubt I fall in Canon's target market. Likewise, I doubt they're looking for the discrete filmmaking market either. The target market is going to be professional filmmakers, the likes of those that use other medium to high end equipment, with a much higher budget than the average person in the street or the person who is going to be using a T2i.
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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2011, 01:13:10 PM »

Great article here on the Scarlet and some pretty ugly truths about the camera

http://philipbloom.net/2011/11/20/scarlet/

That is no lie. This is a great article. Read it if you are on the fence about RED.

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2011, 01:13:10 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2011, 05:05:21 PM »

Great article here on the Scarlet and some pretty ugly truths about the camera

http://philipbloom.net/2011/11/20/scarlet/

That is no lie. This is a great article. Read it if you are on the fence about RED.

An interesting quote from that article:

"If the C300 was half the price it is, I would say to all go get that, but it isn’t (although to be honest I have not shot on it yet, so am speculating and just going from what I saw)."
« Last Edit: November 28, 2011, 05:07:15 PM by Bob Howland »

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 08:40:04 AM »
To me this still only makes sense only as a studio camera, or a rental for projects with a reasonable budget, used in combination with a collection of your own existing EF lenses.  There is absolutely no reason for anyone other than a studio who shoots frequently enough to justify purchase over rental, or a rental house to consider this as a purchase and even then there are many options to consider so it's going to have to be price/feature competitive in it's own range.  The latest test video shown from it does look nice, but for the most part I don't see why it would be unreasonable to ask for that, or near that quality on any generation 2 HDSLR hybrid.  Price drops for this camera only make sense if the competition in it's range (the new RED) demand it so.  Also, if you are renting this body with lenses too then you might as well consider every camera there is to consider first, although with this things quality it doesn't seem like it would be a bad choice in the end.

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Re: Canon EOS C300 Price Drop Already? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 08:40:04 AM »