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7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« on: August 23, 2014, 06:41:39 AM »
Turns out, we already know!  http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/280/28070D135_DL.PDF
Look at the very first sentence under Introduction...

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The EOS 70D (W/N) is a high-performance, digital single-lens reflex camera featuring a fine-detail CMOS sensor with approx. 20.2 effective megapixels...

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 06:43:47 AM »
Indeed...

20.2MP “Fine Detail” CMOS  Sensor (I want more information on this)

= No OLPF or anti-aliasing filter in front of the sensor.

= Nope.  The 70D and 5DIII are both described by Canon as having a 'fine detail CMOS sensor', both have an AA filter.
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 10:20:37 PM »
Fine detail sounds awfully lot like a euphemism for high resolution (eg 20MP APS-C)
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 10:24:06 PM »
Sounds like maybe Canon should be updating their Soft Focus portrait lenses soon then!
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 03:48:04 PM »
Compared to the 7D, I would absolutely classify the 70D as a  "fine detail "sensor.  Whatever or however Canon wants to brand it, the difference is there.

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 10:11:31 AM »
"fine detail sensor" sounds like it came out of the marketing department.

They are trying to convince people to buy the new 7D after all.
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 10:42:04 AM »
"fine detail sensor" sounds like it came out of the marketing department.
Exactly.

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 05:55:33 PM »
Purely marketing rubbish.  I expect this will basically have exactly the same sensor as the 70D.  Posibly some minor changes in microlens design or filter stack, but there will probably be no new technology in the sensor.  Though of course I hope I am wrong.

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 08:56:04 PM »
it means it's "NEW AND IMPROVED!!!"

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 09:11:44 PM »
It means that it is not a coarse detail sensor, like my apple Quicktake with 320x240 pixels of 8 bit colour.

(I suggest that anyone complaining about Canon sensors go back to that technology)
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 09:44:08 PM »
It means that it is not a coarse detail sensor, like my apple Quicktake with 320x240 pixels of 8 bit colour.

(I suggest that anyone complaining about Canon sensors go back to that technology)
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Time Magazine profiled QuickTake as ‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 09:56:58 PM »
It means that it is not a coarse detail sensor, like my apple Quicktake with 320x240 pixels of 8 bit colour.

(I suggest that anyone complaining about Canon sensors go back to that technology)
from wikipedia

The Apple QuickTake (codenamed Venus, Mars, Neptune)

Time Magazine profiled QuickTake as ‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list

we've come a long way in 20 years
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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2014, 05:41:43 AM »
It means that it is not a coarse detail sensor, like my apple Quicktake with 320x240 pixels of 8 bit colour.

(I suggest that anyone complaining about Canon sensors go back to that technology)
from wikipedia

The Apple QuickTake (codenamed Venus, Mars, Neptune)

Time Magazine profiled QuickTake as ‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list

we've come a long way in 20 years

That is kind of funny, considering that consumer digital cameras had been around for about 4 years prior to the Quicktake being launched.

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2014, 05:48:52 AM »
It means that it is not a coarse detail sensor, like my apple Quicktake with 320x240 pixels of 8 bit colour.

(I suggest that anyone complaining about Canon sensors go back to that technology)
from wikipedia

The Apple QuickTake (codenamed Venus, Mars, Neptune)

Time Magazine profiled QuickTake as ‘the first consumer digital camera’ and ranked it among its ’100 greatest and most influential gadgets from 1923 to the present' list

we've come a long way in 20 years

That is kind of funny, considering that consumer digital cameras had been around for about 4 years prior to the Quicktake being launched.

Dycam Model 1 ?
it was shooting 256 tones of gray only (320x240 later 376x284).
i would not call it a digital consumer camera. it was something for computer geeks.

Fujix DS-1P?
it was only available in japan for a short time.
some say it actually was never sold. others say not more than a few hundred were produced.

digital backs for film cameras? not really a digital camera.
and the price was not really "consumer" friendly.

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Re: 7D replacement: What is a "fine-detail" sensor
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 07:30:26 AM »
What about the Sony Mavica?  Released in 1981, it has a more traditional DSLR look.  Some versions even used Canon lenses.
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