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Re: Canon Price Drops on L Lenses
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2014, 06:34:55 AM »
A further update - I have just phoned my local John Lewis branch (Cribbs Causeway by Bristol). Customer services have confirmed that they are completely out of stock of the 70-200 f/2.8L II IS USM but could put an order in for me and the price of the lens, when it arrives, would be £1019. This is apparently now the current John Lewis price for this lens both on the internet and in-store.

Amazing!

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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2014, 07:49:40 AM »
It's the dawning of the age of aquarius .. good old EF is dying ... new native short flangeback lenses for mirrorless FF are on the horizon ... or maybe even around the corner. :-)

Canon has to lower lens prices, because so many people like myself are not interested in big mirrorslappers any longer.

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« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2014, 09:40:42 AM »
Nobody cuts prices if sales grow.
 
It could be just a signal that "the Economy" is not as strong as it seems, and even the sale of Luxury lenses are affected.
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Re: Canon Price Drops on L Lenses
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2014, 10:05:20 AM »
It's the dawning of the age of aquarius .. good old EF is dying ... new native short flangeback lenses for mirrorless FF are on the horizon ... or maybe even around the corner. :-)

Canon has to lower lens prices, because so many people like myself are not interested in big mirrorslappers any longer.

Then the EF system must have been really dead some years back when lens prices where even lower.  For example, in 2008, I bought the 135L for around $950.  I bought another one in 2013 for $900.  Its current price is $1049 -- after the price drop.  Mirrorless must have been really hot back then. ;-)

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« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2014, 10:50:08 AM »
I have to agree that the age of DSLRs is coming to a close. Canon knows it and I suspect the recent price cut is to clear their in-house stock.

Look at the latest CIPA numbers:

Ratio of DSLR to MILC shipped between Jan and July 2014:
Worlwide = 3.23:1
Japan =1.52:1
America (North and South) = 5.5:1 (WOW, WOW, WOW...)
Europe = 4.6:1 (WOW, WOW, WOW...)

Compare that ratio to Jan - Dec 2013:
Worlwide = 4.18:1
Japan =1.63:1
America (North and South) = 8.9:1 (drastic drop in 2014.. WOW)
Europe = 7.1:1

In the MILC arena, Sony is the current leader... Olympus, Panasonic and the rest are left in the dust. Nikon, of course, made a huge blunder with their tiny 1-series camera sensors but there is still time for Canon to change their course....

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« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2014, 12:28:17 PM »
I have to agree that the age of DSLRs is coming to a close. Canon knows it and I suspect the recent price cut is to clear their in-house stock.

LOL.  Sure, price cuts can help clear inventory.  Your implication that the cause is the upcoming predominance of mirrorless is, quite simply, ridiculous.

As for your CIPA comparison of 1H14 to 1H13 – keep in mind that the major players in mirrorless have all released new models this year, whereas the #1 dSLR maker has not released a new consumer model so far 2014.  I think you're making too much of a short-term trend.
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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2014, 02:15:16 PM »
As for your CIPA comparison of 1H14 to 1H13 – keep in mind that the major players in mirrorless have all released new models this year, whereas the #1 dSLR maker has not released a new consumer model so far 2014.  I think you're making too much of a short-term trend.
Yep, no new xxxD, xxD, or xD camera from Canon would certainly affect short term sales, probably in the same way the T5i, 70D, and 6D (actually being available closer to Dec 2012) coming out in 2013 boosted that years sales for Canon. What were the ratios in 2012 and 2011? Not to mention, ratios that are 3:1, 4:1, etc are still pretty massive...you're talking several years at your presumed shrinking pace til they'd be 1:1

edit: Yeah, so, the 3 year trend line pretty much shows mirrorless as a steady niche, and DSLR sales heavily dependent on new cameras coming out (notice the sharp drop after Photokina announced cameras have been sold a few months). When Canon and Nikon both release entire new lines of cameras (2012 and 2013), sales are seasonal but steady. When they dont, they slump.

Id also say there is a clearly slight decline in DSLR sales as a total trend, but its hard to attribute that to mirror less. Could be the lack of big improvements in DSLRs...could be world economies...could be distribution delays carrying over from 2012

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« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2014, 04:12:26 PM »
Come on people, these "price drops" are just pure marketing! Who here ever buys Canon lenses at full MSRP? Don't you all wait for those "deals" like instant rebates and mail in rebates?

The MSRP prices are always artificially high, so when they are lowered you feel all warm and fuzzy dropping 1600 on a new lens- but at least you "saved" 100 bucks!

The sky isn't falling. This has nothing to do with Sony's magical sensors, or Sigma's world beating lenses, or mirrorless taking over... It's just marketing.

The point of marketing to boost sales.
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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2014, 04:44:47 PM »
Sigma/art is hurting canon lens sales.
Refusal to buy new lenses unless canon releases new bodies first also hurts canon lens sales.
People switching to Sony a7/r/s hurt canon lens sales.
People switching to mirrorless fuji x system hurt canon lens sales.
People like myself refusing to buy anything new from canon until they deliver a fully competitive ff mirrorless system .. Hurt canon lens sales...

Enough so to force 10% Price cuts across major parts of the lens lineup. Hehe. Just love it. No more aggressive price hikes in order to boost profits despite falling number of units sold. Canon clearly in the defense due to their strategy to try to only offer fat old mirrorslappers instead of groundbreaking, truly dihital mirroless interchanheable lens cameras and native lenses for them. Hehe. Just love it. Hehehe!

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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2014, 04:53:56 PM »
Can someone explain why the 24-70/f4 is $1,300 in Canada and $1000 in US, but the 24-70/f2.8II is $2000 in Canada and $2100 in US? The same kind of flip-flop in pricing applies to other lenses as well.
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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2014, 07:00:15 PM »
Hehehe!

Yes, your complete lack of business acumen is rather amusing, in a sad sort of way.
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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2014, 08:42:49 PM »
Sigma/art is hurting canon lens sales.
Refusal to buy new lenses unless canon releases new bodies first also hurts canon lens sales.
People switching to Sony a7/r/s hurt canon lens sales.
People switching to mirrorless fuji x system hurt canon lens sales.
People like myself refusing to buy anything new from canon until they deliver a fully competitive ff mirrorless system .. Hurt canon lens sales...

Enough so to force 10% Price cuts across major parts of the lens lineup. Hehe. Just love it. No more aggressive price hikes in order to boost profits despite falling number of units sold. Canon clearly in the defense due to their strategy to try to only offer fat old mirrorslappers instead of groundbreaking, truly dihital mirroless interchanheable lens cameras and native lenses for them. Hehe. Just love it. Hehehe!

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Re: Canon Price Drops on L Lenses
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2014, 01:39:52 PM »
It's the dawning of the age of aquarius .. good old EF is dying ... new native short flangeback lenses for mirrorless FF are on the horizon ... or maybe even around the corner. :-)

Canon has to lower lens prices, because so many people like myself are not interested in big mirrorslappers any longer.
Yeah...like those Canon mirrorless cameras are just RUSHING out the doors, hard to find one left to buy....[rolls eyes]

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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2014, 03:33:46 PM »
Sigma/art is hurting canon lens sales.
Refusal to buy new lenses unless canon releases new bodies first also hurts canon lens sales.
People switching to Sony a7/r/s hurt canon lens sales.
People switching to mirrorless fuji x system hurt canon lens sales.
People like myself refusing to buy anything new from canon until they deliver a fully competitive ff mirrorless system .. Hurt canon lens sales...

Enough so to force 10% Price cuts across major parts of the lens lineup. Hehe. Just love it. No more aggressive price hikes in order to boost profits despite falling number of units sold. Canon clearly in the defense due to their strategy to try to only offer fat old mirrorslappers instead of groundbreaking, truly dihital mirroless interchanheable lens cameras and native lenses for them. Hehe. Just love it. Hehehe!

Not really. I don't know any professionals who work in the field that are using them. I'm on my third 35 art lens, and looking to replace it as soon as possible. The optics may be good, but the durability is a major concern. My autofocus has crapped out multiple times just being in humid weather. They aren't made for pros, just amateurs who want something better than low end Canon gear. I guess it's fine for pros working the studio, but for the majority of us working photojournalists, its a waste of money. God bless L glass. It takes a beating and keeps working.
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Re: Canon Price Drops on L Lenses
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2014, 07:02:30 PM »
A further update - I have just phoned my local John Lewis branch (Cribbs Causeway by Bristol). Customer services have confirmed that they are completely out of stock of the 70-200 f/2.8L II IS USM but could put an order in for me and the price of the lens, when it arrives, would be £1019. This is apparently now the current John Lewis price for this lens both on the internet and in-store.

Amazing!

This is price of 70=200 2.8 non is
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