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Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« on: December 07, 2011, 09:38:01 AM »
First, hi to all of you! A great site and forum that I've been following for a while but just joined...

I'm fairly new into photography, but have seen a lot of complaints about Canon not including lens hoods and pouches with their non-L lenses. The thing is, the lenses I have bought so far have all had this included! One exception being my 50 f/1.4. Is this a recent change that others have seen too?

Not the most interesting topic to start off with as a newcomer here, but it's a bit curious....

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Re: Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 10:47:55 AM »
If I may ask, what lenses, and from where are you buying these lenses? 

Canon generally does not include hood/pouch with non-L lenses, even some expensive ones.  3rd party vendors may bundle them as a package, though. 

There are a couple of exceptions - the Ef 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS lens includes both hood and pouch, and the MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x includes the tripod collar and pouch (but not the hood).
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Re: Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 11:10:00 AM »
If I may ask, what lenses, and from where are you buying these lenses? 

Canon generally does not include hood/pouch with non-L lenses, even some expensive ones.  3rd party vendors may bundle them as a package, though. 

There are a couple of exceptions - the Ef 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS lens includes both hood and pouch, and the MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x includes the tripod collar and pouch (but not the hood).

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The hoods and pouches were not bundled, they were included in the original box. All lenses were bought from authorized Canon dealers. Have a look at the pic - it's even printed on the outside.

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 11:36:06 AM »
That's pretty interesting. Where do you live? I wonder whether there are any other cosmetic changes, like the switches.
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Re: Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 11:40:00 AM »
I don't think anyone has said all non-L lenses come with no hood, or the oh so useful pouch.  I think that when someone gets one without it, and assumed they would be included, they get a little annoyed and post it.  You got 3/4 but choosing different lenses would change that.

And of course when buying from some online/telephone/NYC back ally dealers, they will sometimes tell you these things are not included, and ask for more money to include them, even on items that Canon did include them.  Or the dealer might be selling you a "white box special" which is a repair part from Canon intended to replace a lens for warrantee purposes etc.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 11:51:42 AM »
I bought all three lenses shown in the photo and none arrived with hood or lens. This is the experience of all Canon lens buyers in my native country.

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Just pulled out the box in which my 85mm f/1.8 came in, and it has text on it saying those items are optional.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 11:55:40 AM »
Interesting!  I'll second the question - what country are you in?  I've previously bought the 85/1.8 and 10-22mm in the USA, and neither came with hood/pouch. 

The user manual for the 10-22mm from the Canon USA website, for example, indicates that the hood and case are sold separately (p.9).

The B&H section showing 'what's in the box' indicates only lens, front and read caps, and warranty card for the lenses you mention.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 11:56:32 AM »
I don't think anyone has said all non-L lenses come with no hood, or the oh so useful pouch.  I think that when someone gets one without it, and assumed they would be included, they get a little annoyed and post it.  You got 3/4 but choosing different lenses would change that.

So for these three it's included (and I guess other people who also bought any of these lenses can confirm that), but for other lenses it's not necessarily included. Seems odd of Canon to include it so randomly on different lenses...
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 11:59:14 AM »
Interesting!  I'll second the question - what country are you in?  I've previously bought the 85/1.8 and 10-22mm in the USA, and neither came with hood/pouch. 

The user manual for the 10-22mm from the Canon USA website, for example, indicates that the hood and case are sold separately (p.9).


Could it be a regional difference? I live in Shanghai and all lenses were bought in Asia. A weird approach of Canon to just please some of its consumers? Surely including the hoods would be appreciated in all markets?
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Re: Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 12:02:04 PM »
Or the dealer might be selling you a "white box special" which is a repair part from Canon intended to replace a lens for warrantee purposes etc.

It is common for dealers to break apart body-lens kits and sell the body and lens separately.  Sometimes its needed due to supply chain issues, but usually, it adds a bit more profit.  B&H does this, and they are not a Back Ally Dealer.

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 12:17:48 PM »
Could it be a regional difference? I live in Shanghai and all lenses were bought in Asia. A weird approach of Canon to just please some of its consumers? Surely including the hoods would be appreciated in all markets?

It undoubtedly is a regional difference.  While you're right that customers in all markets would appreciate including the hoods, I suppose Canon's market research has shown that in the US, at least, customers are willing to pay extra for them, meaning more profit for Canon. 

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Re: Lens hoods and pouches now included with all non-L lenses?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 12:54:08 PM »
Very interesting.  It could also be something that has changed over time.  A 10-22 purchased today could have been made 3 weeks ago, or 3 yeas ago,  and some lenses are manufactured for 20+ years.   Canon may just change it's mind at some point and change the box and contents.

I usually buy aftermarket caps and hood, then pout the originals safely away in the box for later sale.

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 02:06:56 PM »
Could it be a regional difference? I live in Shanghai and all lenses were bought in Asia. A weird approach of Canon to just please some of its consumers? Surely including the hoods would be appreciated in all markets?

It undoubtedly is a regional difference.  While you're right that customers in all markets would appreciate including the hoods, I suppose Canon's market research has shown that in the US, at least, customers are willing to pay extra for them, meaning more profit for Canon. 

Thanks for sharing!

Or their research has shown that in the US market, a "majority" of customers aren't willing to pay more to have them included, so they sell the hood and cases separately for those who really do want them.  To answer that, we'd need to figure out if the cost of just the lens + add-on hood + add-on case equals the cost of the lens w/hood and case included.  Of course, the prices in different regions aren't necessarily equivalent, so we might not know for sure. :(
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 03:13:38 PM »
Interesting!  I'll second the question - what country are you in?  I've previously bought the 85/1.8 and 10-22mm in the USA, and neither came with hood/pouch. 

The user manual for the 10-22mm from the Canon USA website, for example, indicates that the hood and case are sold separately (p.9).


Could it be a regional difference? I live in Shanghai and all lenses were bought in Asia. A weird approach of Canon to just please some of its consumers? Surely including the hoods would be appreciated in all markets?


Hi, i've got my EF-S 10-22 in France in December 2010, no hood nor case either ...
I guess it is also complex to bundle both: while i would have appreciated the hood, i would have had no use for the case (i have a nice bag for my 40D and its 3 lenses).
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 04:06:08 PM »
I got my 15-85, 70-300, 50/1.8ii and 70-300L all in The Netherlands, all I got was the hood and pouch for the L (the 15-85 i didn't even get a box, just bubblewrap because it was split from a kit for €60 less). Got an 85/1.8 recently off ebay, from a guy who bought originally in Aus, no hood in that either.
Got the hoods for the 15-85 and 85/1.8 off ebay for $5 shipped each, they work well enough.

It's probably a regional thing, I'll ask my friend who goes to Hong Kong regularly what his experience is (although he generally only buys L lenses). Expecially in a place where you can get a 3rd-party hood for a dollar extra, Canon probably think that it's better to charge a few dollars extra for including the hood rather than lose that bit of difference.
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