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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2011, 06:46:49 PM »
just use the center point and f2.8 lenses or faster and you'll be fine :D
I think F/4 as well?

Well, with f/4 you get only horizontal sensitivity, vertical line has
sensitivity with f/2.8 or brighter lenses only.

In other words, with f/4 lens you won't have a cross center focus point,
you'll get plain old horizontal f/5.6 point.

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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2011, 07:32:31 PM »
just use the center point and f2.8 lenses or faster and you'll be fine :D
I think F/4 as well?

Well, with f/4 you get only horizontal sensitivity, vertical line has
sensitivity with f/2.8 or brighter lenses only.

In other words, with f/4 lens you won't have a cross center focus point,
you'll get plain old horizontal f/5.6 point.

Now that is a fly in the ointment for my plan to buy a 70-200 f4 IS...
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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2011, 08:31:58 PM »
just use the center point and f2.8 lenses or faster and you'll be fine :D
I think F/4 as well?

Well, with f/4 you get only horizontal sensitivity, vertical line has
sensitivity with f/2.8 or brighter lenses only.

In other words, with f/4 lens you won't have a cross center focus point,
you'll get plain old horizontal f/5.6 point.

Briansquibb is correct. The 5DII's center AF point is an f/5.6-sensitive cross-type point, with additional f/2.8 sensitivity in a single orientation.
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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2011, 07:04:35 AM »
Briansquibb is correct. The 5DII's center AF point is an f/5.6-sensitive cross-type point, with additional f/2.8 sensitivity in a single orientation.


I've had an impression that a single line can be either higher precision (f/2.8), but will only work with f/2.8 or faster lesnes, and that is the reason why xxD bodies (IIRC starting with 40D) have center point that is composed of horizontal and vertical lines sensitive to f/5.6 and additional diagonal lines sensitive to f/2.8.

I did look for more authoritative source and found this:
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/autofocus/autofocus.do

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EOS 5D Mark II AF system
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The centre AF point has a special hybrid design. With f/2.8 or faster lenses, focusing is a two-step process. First, the f/5.6-sensitive cross-type sensor components are used to focus. When focus is almost achieved, a switch is made to the f/2.8-sensitive vertical line-sensitive sensors for high-precision focusing.

Additionally, the centre AF point’s f/5.6 sensors each have two lines with individual pixels arranged in a zigzag pattern, making a total of four lines for horizontal line-sensitive focusing at the centre.

With this improvement, the centre AF point can do a better job of detecting difficult-to-read, low-contrast subjects, improving the overall performance of the autofocusing system.


So, I stand corrected.  Thanks for pointing this out!

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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2011, 09:22:57 AM »
xxD bodies (IIRC starting with 40D) have center point that is composed of horizontal and vertical lines sensitive to f/5.6 and additional diagonal lines sensitive to f/2.8.

I think the reason for that arrangement is so that the center AP point is acting as cross type with all lenses for the entire focusing process.
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Re: 5d mkII vs 50D in terms of AF
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2011, 09:22:57 AM »