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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #225 on: December 19, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »
That's your personal preference but it doesn't mean the 7d is a bad camera, it's just not for you.

Which is why I have ended up with the 1D4 - top AF, top IQ

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« Reply #225 on: December 19, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »

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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #226 on: December 19, 2011, 05:03:49 PM »
I'm coming to this discussion late, but thought I'd offer my experience.  I bought a 7D early in 2011 to supplement my 5D classic. 

There is no doubt that the 7D is a much faster handling camera than the 5D or I believe the 5D II.  That's why I bought it.  I always shoot RAW and use various programs for post processing.  I typically shoot at ISO 100 or 200.

I had quite a bit of trouble getting images that I liked from the 7D at first.  The images are definitely different than what my 5D classic produces.  There is more detail, due to the additional megapixels, but there is also more noise.  I had to get used to using more noise reduction for my RAW files and less sharpening.  (Of course sharpening depends on the lens and other factors too.)

I decided to keep the 7D as a sports/action type camera, since the 5D is certainly not good for those subjects.  I got the 7D as a refurb through the Canon Loyalty program so it was not terribly expensive.

Working with the 7D has made me really appreciate the image quality of the 5D.  It's hard to describe exactly what it is that I like, but I will note that I can manipulate the tone curves a lot before the image starts to break down - much more so than with the 7D

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Hi Mike; This is great information since mostly people compare the 7d to the 5d2, and not to the 5dc.. Since I own a 5dc, and was considering a 7d, I wanted someone's experience with these 2 Cameras and always wanted to ask someone if I would see an improvement in IQ if i got the 7d after I already use the 5D.  I mostly do scenery/street/people. Not so into sports/action yet, but the extra reach of the 7d (APS-C +higher pixel density) always made me think about it  ... any thoughts from you on the 7d/5d noise & IQ would be helpful !!
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #227 on: December 19, 2011, 05:05:43 PM »
That's your personal preference but it doesn't mean the 7d is a bad camera, it's just not for you.

Which is why I have ended up with the 1D4 - top AF, top IQ

As long as your happy with your results and your clients, then more power to ya...  :)
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #228 on: December 19, 2011, 05:25:38 PM »
That's your personal preference but it doesn't mean the 7d is a bad camera, it's just not for you.

Which is why I have ended up with the 1D4 - top AF, top IQ

As long as your happy with your results and your clients, then more power to ya...  :)

Not a bad camera, just too much compromise on the IQ for me

Here is one that I almost threw away, but the client drooled over.

7D, 400mm@f4, 1/2000, iso 200 uncropped and hand held


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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #229 on: December 19, 2011, 05:29:40 PM »
That's your personal preference but it doesn't mean the 7d is a bad camera, it's just not for you.

Which is why I have ended up with the 1D4 - top AF, top IQ

As long as your happy with your results and your clients, then more power to ya...  :)

Not a bad camera, just too much compromise on the IQ for me

Here is one that I almost threw away, but the client drooled over.

7D, 400mm@f4, 1/2000, iso 200 uncropped and hand held

Nice shot... what zoo/park/sanctuary was that at? 
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #230 on: December 19, 2011, 05:31:26 PM »

Nice shot... what zoo/park/sanctuary was that at?

Leeds Castle, Kent, UK

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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #231 on: December 19, 2011, 05:36:05 PM »

Nice shot... what zoo/park/sanctuary was that at?

Leeds Castle, Kent, UK

Nice... are you from the UK?
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #232 on: December 19, 2011, 05:38:32 PM »
Here is another focussed with the 5dII, servo mode coming towards me .....

70-300L@300, 1/400, f5.6, iso200

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« Reply #234 on: December 19, 2011, 05:44:43 PM »
I was just out shooting a redtailed hawk that was in a tree nearby with my 7D.  Even with my dumb old 55-250 IS I was able to get some decent shots of the bird as it flew away.

I really like the "continuous AF track priority" option!  I had the middle AF point selected and after I locked on with it (which was admittedly slow due to the crappy lens) the AF points dutifully followed the bird around the frame as I "machinegunned" my way through a few seconds of flight.  Every single one of those shots was in focus.  Really impressive!

Drmikeinpdx: thanks for your comment!  It seems to mirror my general feelings about the 7D.  Unfortunately, I don't have the cash to step up to FF right now... so I'm going to continue to make peace with the 7D.

There are a ton of things to love about this camera... but there are definitely a couple of IQ issues...

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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #235 on: December 19, 2011, 05:47:37 PM »
Nice... are you from the UK?

Yes

Cool.. my wife was from Newcastle, UK... live in the US...  nice work...
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #236 on: December 19, 2011, 05:50:43 PM »
I was just out shooting a redtailed hawk that was in a tree nearby with my 7D.  Even with my dumb old 55-250 IS I was able to get some decent shots of the bird as it flew away.

I really like the "continuous AF track priority" option!  I had the middle AF point selected and after I locked on with it (which was admittedly slow due to the crappy lens) the AF points dutifully followed the bird around the frame as I "machinegunned" my way through a few seconds of flight.  Every single one of those shots was in focus.  Really impressive!

Drmikeinpdx: thanks for your comment!  It seems to mirror my general feelings about the 7D.  Unfortunately, I don't have the cash to step up to FF right now... so I'm going to continue to make peace with the 7D.

There are a ton of things to love about this camera... but there are definitely a couple of IQ issues...

I hope the new FF 5d will be a married system of full frame quality and at least 7D AF... if they come out with that camera, I'm dumping the 7d and 5d2... I never realized how rough the 5d2 AF can be where the 7d doesn't even think twice... Perhaps I'm giving Canon too much credit for being able to create such a camera but I can hope.   :)
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #237 on: December 19, 2011, 07:19:26 PM »
nice shots briansquibb!,

can you give us people struggling with AF some detailed tips for shooting with the 5D2 AF?
it would really be much appreciated

cheers.
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #238 on: December 19, 2011, 07:20:04 PM »
Here is another focussed with the 5dII, servo mode coming towards me .....

70-300L@300, 1/400, f5.6, iso200



Wow!  You certainly know how to focus with the 5D mkII!  Nice!
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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2011, 07:20:54 PM »
nice shots briansquibb!,

can you give us people struggling with AF some detailed tips for shooting with the 5D2 AF?
it would really be much appreciated

cheers.

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Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D
« Reply #239 on: December 19, 2011, 07:20:54 PM »