Try focusing at f/8 or more which is what I do for weddings ....
Which certainly is one viable
solution workaround for the weak performance of the 5DII's AF system in certain shooting situations.
I dont use the 5DII for shallow DOF - typically nowadays for weddings and landscapes for anything much less than f/8 is rare.
Thanks for the explanation - I now completely understand your 'defense' of the 5DII's AF system. As has been stated frequently, know the limitations of your equipment. At f/8, any errors in focusing are quite effectively masked by the deep DoF.
The problem is that most people expect a $2K+ camera to focus accurately even with a shallow DoF. Speaking for myself, I certainly didn't buy a 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II, 135mm f/2L, or 85mm f/1.2L II to 'f/8 and be there.'
If you read this correctly I say that nowadays for weddings and landscapes I use f/8. The karting examples were all at f/2.8 which I dont consider paricularly shallow. I certainly did not suggest all pictures should be taken at f/8 or more - you have misread my comment
The people that shoot with shallow DOF are the portrait shooters. Portrait shooters are a significant population of 5DII owners - so I make a reasonable a guess the 5DII manages the AF for that OK else it wouldn't sell.
It is clear that you are biased against the 5DII as you have continued to take comments out of context to try and prove that the AF of the 5DII is very poor . You have been shown sufficient photos by me to prove that the 5DII can take good pictures.
Let me say for one last time:
The AF on the 5DII is adequate, when locked on it is accurate. The centre AF point is very good, especially in low light (locking on when even the 1D4 fails)
I am not defending the 5DII AF - I am merely spelling out the truth and dispelling some of the untruths that are circulating - and backing it up with real life images to show what it can do.
You seem to be continually trying to find fault in an extreme situation - and presenting it as a weakness. This attack could be made on any camera out there - they all have weaknesses. It would be far more constructive to give a balanced view of the equipment, based on real, hands on experience with samples that would show the less experienced what they can achieve.
You are attacking one of the most sucesful cameras of our time - had it not occured to you that it is very good to get this reputation over the last 3 years - and part of the camera is the AF system which must be OK else it wouldn't continue to be in demand.
Why do people think the difference between this and the 7D is that the 7D has a wonderfull AF system and that a quick run of denoise makes the 7D a better camera? The big difference is that the 5DII is full frame and the 7D is crop and all the disadvantages that the crop brings to the IQ.
@awinphoto - no I wasn't calling you limited that was the camera I was refering to with the outside AF points. Not nice to start threatening when you have misread a comment
Seems everyone is misreading my comments tonight.