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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2015, 11:50:58 AM »
By the way, if you were at high school in the 80's then you're now old enough to know better - a gentleman wears socks everywhere except the beach. Hmmm, maybe no socks on a yacht but it would have to be one with teak decking...hmmm, crap, I'll have to go and make a list now.  >:(

Hipsters wear socks now



The no sock thing was 2014.

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2015, 11:50:58 AM »

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2015, 12:05:39 PM »
You could achieve much the same effect by slapping an extension tube on a 50L or 50/1.4, and you'd have autofocus.

The thing I have never understood about LB is that they design optics that are deliberately aberrant yet command a high price, especially considering that there are well-corrected and AUTOFOCUSING designs from a variety of other manufacturers.  It smacks of willful exploitation of photographers who rely on gimmicks and special effects (I would have included "cheap tricks" in that list but clearly these tricks are not cheap), rather than strong subject matter, composition, and timing.

And the shamelessly melodramatic "I cried!" and effusive testimonials in their press release just makes me want to retch.  It betrays the fact that some photographers are complete hypocrites, on the one hand talking about how "it's not the gear but the photographer," and on the other talking about how "Lens XXX is the most special and uniquely-rendering lens with better microcontrast blah blah blah and if you're not using one your images automatically are not as good as mine."

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2015, 12:07:53 PM »
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I'm pretty sure this is considered formal wear in the hipster community.


By the way, if you were at high school in the 80's then you're now old enough to know better - a gentleman wears socks everywhere except the beach. Hmmm, maybe no socks on a yacht but it would have to be one with teak decking...hmmm, crap, I'll have to go and make a list now.  >:(

Hipsters wear socks now



The no sock thing was 2014.
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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #33 on: April 07, 2015, 01:03:37 PM »
Oh dear, hipsters will leap on this gimmick and add it to their essential kit of beard, pipe and no socks.

I"m not quite sure what a "hipster" is....
But I've been going without socks since my "preppy" days back in High School in the early, early 80's.
Usually with deck shoes....so, while not sure about the beards and pipe thing...going sans socks isn't a new trend.

:)

This explains the whole issue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5z-Q4po4M

By the way, if you were at high school in the 80's then you're now old enough to know better - a gentleman wears socks everywhere except the beach. Hmmm, maybe no socks on a yacht but it would have to be one with teak decking...hmmm, crap, I'll have to go and make a list now.  >:(

"a gentleman wears socks everywhere except the beach." ??

I don't know about that but  ... a man wears whatever the he!! he wants, when he wants.

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2015, 01:06:58 PM »
Sounds like snake oil to me :)

true ...  but it's velvety snake oil.

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #35 on: April 07, 2015, 01:07:17 PM »
Early review and sample pictures here:
http://www.slrlounge.com/first-look-lensbabys-new-velvet-56/

From what's being described by the reviewer, it looks like it's an old soft-focus lens but there's no soft focus selector -- the dreamy effect is apparently 'on' for larger apertures and 'off' for smaller apertures.

So if you want sharp and wide open at the same time, this would likely not be for you.   :o

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2015, 01:13:14 PM »
You guys just dont get it.

Do you know how many ppl wonder every day how some "dreamy" or nicely blurred/bokeh picture was taken? Do you know how many of em know how to use photoshop and still own a DSLR? Those kind of photographers just point, shoot and post on instagram. They will go mad over this kind of lens. They are the ones mentioned in the quotes "crying how wonderful the pictures came out". A clever salesman will make em test the lens out in a shop and tell them how every professional uses em showing some nice example pictures. "Come buy the lens that will instantly transform you into pro!"

There will be people in love with this lens - none of them will be found here.

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2015, 01:13:14 PM »

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #37 on: April 07, 2015, 02:19:21 PM »
I cannot remotely understand why people buy these crappy lenses  ???

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #38 on: April 07, 2015, 02:58:46 PM »
There will be people in love with this lens - none of them will be found here.

Oh really? I'm thinking this lens would be the one that finally makes my stupid 1DX take good pictures.  ;)
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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2015, 03:09:15 PM »
Is this any different from pulling the "clarity" slider in LR over to the left?

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2015, 03:34:16 PM »
If you are attending an exhibition of "contemporary photography" will find many blurry, blurry and dark photos. These pictures are made by "artists" and not by photographers. ??? Artists do not understand S___ about cameras and lenses. :-\

I took a course of ART-TECHNOLOGY RESEARCH CREATIVE where I told my teacher that:

Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent.

She did not like my opinion but overcome our disagreement.
After several months, came the exhibition day. I took a Canon SLR with color film and lens Sigma 24-70mm F3.5-5.6. The teacher asked my camera to photograph our group. After looking at my camera, she asked me:

Where's the zoom? :o :o :o

I feel confuse, and said, Here, on the lens rubber ring. :-X
A year later, she was arrested for stabbing his sister to death. She sat on the sidewalk and waited for police to arrive to say that would kill all the rest of his family.

 :-X :-X :-X I'm just a photographer who prefers cameras and lenses, instead of knives and blood. ::) Please do not call me an artist. ;)
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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #41 on: April 07, 2015, 05:46:20 PM »
You could achieve much the same effect by slapping an extension tube on a 50L or 50/1.4, and you'd have autofocus.

The thing I have never understood about LB is that they design optics that are deliberately aberrant yet command a high price, especially considering that there are well-corrected and AUTOFOCUSING designs from a variety of other manufacturers.  It smacks of willful exploitation of photographers who rely on gimmicks and special effects (I would have included "cheap tricks" in that list but clearly these tricks are not cheap), rather than strong subject matter, composition, and timing.

And the shamelessly melodramatic "I cried!" and effusive testimonials in their press release just makes me want to retch.  It betrays the fact that some photographers are complete hypocrites, on the one hand talking about how "it's not the gear but the photographer," and on the other talking about how "Lens XXX is the most special and uniquely-rendering lens with better microcontrast blah blah blah and if you're not using one your images automatically are not as good as mine."

The thing is, a pro can make these effects using autofocus lenses, there is no real need for lens baby, but an amateur would just be confused by all the options, so lens baby is easier for them.

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2015, 05:49:21 PM »
Well, the overwhelming property of velvet is that it is fuzzy, so these lenses are named perfectly. They may also be going for velvet's traditional role in the art world ...

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #42 on: April 07, 2015, 05:49:21 PM »

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #43 on: April 07, 2015, 06:08:48 PM »
I would like to put my hands on one... I generally cannot tell if lensbaby pics were intentional or missed focus, but they are often interesting. (and not interesting is not the same as good)

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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2015, 07:19:07 PM »
Their demonstration images look a bit like what I used to get from the c1930's uncoated 3 element lens on an old Kodak folding camera I used to experiment with.

Only less sharp.

$500 is rather too steep for my taste; esp. when I can achieve the same result with an old (100 years old) view camera lens adapted to my EOS-M.


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Re: Lensbaby Announces Velvet 56
« Reply #44 on: April 07, 2015, 07:19:07 PM »