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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2015, 08:37:13 PM »
its hard  to believe that this is the best sigma could do with this lens. it shouldn't be that hard to make a lens with a bit more range than 24-35 keep in mind that the 18-35 works on ff from 28-35 and its 1.8

lol, Sigma crams in as much as possible and appears to have achieved a first of its kind lens, and here is somebody saying it wouldn't be hard to do more.  They have to abide by the laws of physics you know, and maintain a certain standard of image quality.

I'll second that. sure, how hard could it be? add this, add that.... if only these lens designing fools had stopped to think of the possibilities, or put in more effort. "hey, why don't i just work late tonight and take this lens to 20mm, that'll show 'em"

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2015, 08:37:13 PM »

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2015, 09:08:53 PM »
The 35 1.4 will be sold off as soon as this arrives.

That does bring up an interesting question.  Would it be a good idea to get this new lens and replace the 35mm?

If I did not already have the 35mm, I think this new zoom would be handy.  But if I already have their 35mm  I wonder dumping it will be a good idea.

Is there an expectation that a 24-35 Art will have the same IQ as the 35mm Art prime?


The 35 1.4 is a great lens.

But I do not want to carry a bag full of 1.4 primes. I realize some people do, but my needs / expectations have to be balanced with what I can carry in the street for hours on end. The fact this lens takes a 82mm filter (as posted on Sigma Rumors) has taken some wind from the sails. I do not have a Sherpa. I have been using the 40mm STM during daylight hours since it was first introduced and the size, weight and discreetness of the lens is great. Often the fast primes stay in the trunk safe until nightfall.

A good day bag is a 24 or 28 (f2 where there is a massive hole in the market for the last decade) /40stm/85 1.8 and 135 f2.

Once in a while I drag along the 24mm TSE as the wide, it is very sharp, but big and heavy.



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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2015, 09:20:22 PM »

24-70 f/2 = a really big deal.  Would be a landmark lens provided the IQ is there and it's not +3 pounds over a 24-70 f/2.8.

24-50 f/2 = a clever hybrid of primes vs. zooms that some would certainly buy.  (I would.)

24-35 f/2 = seems like a vanity piece for Sigma to say 'First ever!', drop the mic, and move on.  Meh.

I think this lens will not fare well commercially at such a limited FL range.

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I disagree, as someone pointed out on Facebook.... it's sort of like a Tri-Elmar from Leica.. it's a 24 f/2, 28 f/2 and 35 f/2 in one lens.

This is a pretty big deal in lens design for full frame DSLRs.

not really - it's freaking huge. the tri-elmar wasn't a gigantic 2lbs lens that this one is looking like it's going to roll in at.

this thing? game changer? no, can't see it.

Not a game changer? Think about what you're proclaiming here. First, the Tri-Elmar is $5,500. Second, it's fully manual and not compatible with a full frame sensor - period. Third, it's an f/4. People are gaga over the lens because it has Lecia on it and has great image quality.

This will be about $1000-1200, fully electronic with AF while covering a full-frame image circle, and is two full stops of light faster than a Tri-Elmar. It will most likely be on par or better than the 18-35 in image quality, so it's sure to be impressive.

Not a game changer? What game do you play?

I think everyone forgets that 2.0 is a full stop faster than 2.8. Unless it's a 1.8, they don't care.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2015, 09:45:48 PM »
I just went out and took a few shots with the 18-35  on the 6d. A couple at 35 and one  at 28. There is some vignetting but you can remove it in post. If this rumor is true then you get 24.

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2015, 10:25:58 PM »
Like many, 24-50 f/2 was sort of the "realistic" hope (as opposed to 24-70 f/2), but I'm still very happy with this release. I'm more of a filmmaker than a photographer these days and have been eyeballing the Sigam 18-35mm for my C100 for quite some time. However, something inside me always screams, "ONLY BUY FF COMPATIBLE LENSES!" as I do shoot with a Mark III for photography purposes. So, this sort of gives me exactly what I want. I won't be able to shoot quite as wide on my C100 with this new 24-35 compared to the 18-35, but being able to stick it on my 5D makes it exceedingly more valuable and a lot more versatile. Also, though I have the Rokinon 24 f/1.4 and 35 f/1.4 that I use for video, I have wanted AF primes at these FLs. This zoom lens might satisfy that need as well (I can accept f/2 in place of f/1.4....but f/2.8 is just too slow).  I just hope quality wise it's as good as the 18-35; it's almost a definite buy for me if so.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2015, 10:35:11 PM »
Like most people here, this seems like an odd choice to me.  I'm guessing that it will be an excellent lens, but I'm not sure who it's for.  How often do you really need F2 at 24mm? Astro maybe?  At 35mm, I can make decent use of F2 with my 35mm IS, and sure, occasionally it'd be nice to be able to go wider for architectural shots (especially when on vacation), but it looks like it will not be a great travel lens given the size and weight (just guessing, but it's looking like another Tamron 15-30 sized behemoth), especially for such a limited zoom range.  And no IS.  I would imagine most pros would prefer an L or Sigma art 1.4 prime for most purposes.

I actually think it would have made more sense for them to go for a fast zoom in the normal range instead - I think something like a 35-55 F2 could be really interesting, and likely significantly smaller.

More realistically, some cheaper primes with OS to undercut Canon's 24-28-35 IS primes would make a lot of sense.

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2015, 10:39:12 PM »
I'm not sure who it's for.  How often do you really need F2 at 24mm?

Think live event photogs and run & gun filmmakers. I film weddings, and it's a CONSTANT battle between needing the speed of a prime (think dark reception venue) and the convenience of a zoom to get the shot.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2015, 10:39:12 PM »

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2015, 10:41:19 PM »
Like many, 24-50 f/2 was sort of the "realistic" hope (as opposed to 24-70 f/2), but I'm still very happy with this release. I'm more of a filmmaker than a photographer these days and have been eyeballing the Sigam 18-35mm for my C100 for quite some time. However, something inside me always screams, "ONLY BUY FF COMPATIBLE LENSES!" as I do shoot with a Mark III for photography purposes. So, this sort of gives me exactly what I want. I won't be able to shoot quite as wide on my C100 with this new 24-35 compared to the 18-35, but being able to stick it on my 5D makes it exceedingly more valuable and a lot more versatile. Also, though I have the Rokinon 24 f/1.4 and 35 f/1.4 that I use for video, I have wanted AF primes at these FLs. This zoom lens might satisfy that need as well (I can accept f/2 in place of f/1.4....but f/2.8 is just too slow).  I just hope quality wise it's as good as the 18-35; it's almost a definite buy for me if so.

The c100 uses a super 35/aps-c size sensor? The 18-35 will give you the full range on that. It is ef mount not ef-s it is ff compatible but the image circle only covers the sensor on the long half. All you will gain with this new rumored lens is 24-28 on ff.

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2015, 10:42:21 PM »
Hold on a second... Why is the zoom ring in reverse of normal Canon and Sigma? Hmmm kind of fishy.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2015, 11:40:01 PM »
I can't believe this is real. A zoom lens with less than a 2x zoom range is just silly. Either get a 24mm f1.4 and take a couple steps forward, or a 35mm f1.4 and take a few step back. There is so little difference between 24mm and 35mm it just doesn't make sense.

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2015, 12:08:06 AM »
I am still hoping for f2.0 upgrade for 17-50mm crop zoom lens from Sigma/Canon. Sigma went with 18-35 f1.8 instead and Canon is not bothered to upgrade any crop zoom lens other than kit lens.


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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2015, 12:36:23 AM »
I'm not sure who it's for.  How often do you really need F2 at 24mm?

Think live event photogs and run & gun filmmakers. I film weddings, and it's a CONSTANT battle between needing the speed of a prime (think dark reception venue) and the convenience of a zoom to get the shot.

What convenience is there for only going from 24-35? That's not a one lens solution. You'll still need to change lenses or have a second body on hand. A 24-70 would require less lens changing or swapping. That's valuable time where you might miss the shot.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2015, 01:45:57 AM »
My 2 cents on this.

I owned and liked the 35 Art very much. I then decided to get the 50. Wow, that's even better. When the 24 came I wanted that for starscapes and stuff. So I got the 24 but couldn't really justify having 24, 35 and 50, mainly because of 24 and 35 being so close to each other.

So I sold the 35. And I miss it.

Still, the combination 24/50 makes more sense in my camera bag, but I want the 35 back, somehow. As I can't use the 24 at f/1.4 anyway for starscapes because of coma in the corners, this 24-35/2 somehow comes in as the perfect compromise now. I lose f/1.4 but I (probably) save money compared to having 24 and 35 primes and I don't have to justify owning both primes.

I for one find this lens very interesting and will definitely give it a go when it comes and probably even consider buying it itf it's not too far away from the MSRP of 24 and 35. Of course if it's way over 1000€ I can get 24 and 35 used for almost the same price so that wouldn't make sense but let it be say 999€ MSRP which is more like 849€ street price, count me in.
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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2015, 01:45:57 AM »

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2015, 03:03:11 AM »
I think something like a 35-55 F2 could be really interesting, and likely significantly smaller.

I think there will be more short range fast zooms rivaling prime optics.  The days of prime image quality in a zoom are here.

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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2015, 04:04:28 AM »
It is optically not easy to make an f2 lens over an big zoom range in  wideangle & normal focal length.
When we visited Zeiss some weeks ago, the guide told us, that it is much more difficult to creat an perfect and bright wideangel & normal fl zoomrange than an telezoom.


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Re: SIGMA Announces the 24-35mm F2 DG HSM Art
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2015, 04:04:28 AM »