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What would you prefer as a 7D upgrade/replacement

7D2 APS-C 18mp $ 1500 Better Noise than 7Dc
7 (63.6%)
7D2 APS-C 24mp $1800 Similar or slight noise penalty compared to 7Dc
1 (9.1%)
6D APS-H 14-16 mp  $1800  Better noise than 5Dii
2 (18.2%)
6D APS-H 18mp  $1800  Better Noise than 7Dc
1 (9.1%)
6D APS-H 23mp $2300 Better Noise than 7Dc
0 (0%)
6D APS-H 30mp $2600 Similar Noise as  7Dc
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: January 12, 2012, 11:13:05 AM

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7D successor Poll
« on: January 05, 2012, 11:13:05 AM »
Given the past Polls on the 7D, I was wondering if an APS-H offering was made to match the crop-pull of the 7D (i.e. same pixel width) would it appeal to current 7D owners? Would they upgrade to it? Would current 5D owners want the extra reach offered by the APS-H? Would current 1D owners get the same reach they are missing with the 1Dx?

Edit: In option 1: We assume better feature set for Firmware; better noise/ ISO performance compared to 7Dc
Edit 2: Added 2 more flavors based on some requests: Poll re-set: You can re-do your votes.
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7D successor Poll
« on: January 05, 2012, 11:13:05 AM »

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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 01:22:32 PM »
The second option for me pls ;)

First one is the same as the current 7D, I would like to see a new sensor if I upgrade.

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 01:27:50 PM »
First one is the same as the current 7D, I would like to see a new sensor if I upgrade.

Do you have EF-S lenses, with an image circle too small to cover an APS-H sensor?
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 01:30:47 PM »
The second option for me pls ;)

First one is the same as the current 7D, I would like to see a new sensor if I upgrade.

The idea was to get improvements in noise/ ISO performace keeping the same MP numbers. and maybe more than 3 AEB (my Fetish I know  :-X )
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 01:44:26 PM »
Do you have EF-S lenses, with an image circle too small to cover an APS-H sensor?

Nope :)

The idea was to get improvements in noise/ ISO performace keeping the same MP numbers. and maybe more than 3 AEB (my Fetish I know  :-X )

Ah I see my bad ;)

I still like the APS-H options, definitely for those prices :D

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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 02:57:18 PM »
How about: 7D mkII ASP-C 24mp?  ;D That's what I'm looking for!!!
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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 03:16:30 PM »
Perhaps a better way to express this would be:

1) 7D (APS-C) 18-21 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 5D MII, $1,700 U.S.;
2) 7D (APS-C) 24 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 7D, $1,700 U.S.;
3) ?D (APS-H) 16 mp with 1 stop improvement in image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity over current generation of 5D MKII sensor, $2,500 U.S.

While I don't expect to ever see another APS-H sensor, at least these three choices seem somewhat plausible.

My vote would be for #1.
 
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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 03:19:21 PM »
Perhaps a better way to express this would be:

1) 7D (APS-C) 18-21 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 5D MII, $1,700 U.S.;
2) 7D (APS-C) 24 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 7D, $1,700 U.S.;
3) ?D (APS-H) 16 mp with 1 stop improvement in image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity over current generation of 5D MKII sensor, $2,500 U.S.

While I don't expect to ever see another APS-H sensor, at least these three choices seem somewhat plausible.

My vote would be for #1.

I think your #1 or #2 are a LOT more realistic with price and MP knowing Canon's MO... then again after seeing the 1dx, i would put my money on #1 but what do i know
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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2012, 03:54:22 PM »
Perhaps a better way to express this would be:

1) 7D (APS-C) 18-21 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 5D MII, $1,700 U.S.;
2) 7D (APS-C) 24 mp with image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity equal to current generation of 7D, $1,700 U.S.;
3) ?D (APS-H) 16 mp with 1 stop improvement in image quality/noise/ISO sensitivity over current generation of 5D MKII sensor, $2,500 U.S.

While I don't expect to ever see another APS-H sensor, at least these three choices seem somewhat plausible.

My vote would be for #1.

Good choices: My thinking at the time of poll creation was: For option 1: The 5D ISO/Noise is more a function of FF sensor hence asking for that in a APS-C would perhaps be too much. Ofcourse I mean Noise with RAW, not some souped up jpeg NR algorithm right? On Option2: I did think about 24mp, but then seeing all the negative reviews of the Sony 24mp sensor regsrding noise, I chose to avoid it... too bad I cannot add it now. One of the main drivers for this poll was noise improvements.

Edit: I was able to modify the Poll and add 2 more choices :)
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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 04:48:17 PM »
Well, there are lots of different ways to express this choice, but I think it comes down to tradeoffs.

I understood your intent and was not being critical. We are nine months away from a new 7D so there will be lots of time to speculate (which is half the fun, isn't it?)

Assuming you can't have super-high resolution and zero noise at all ISOs, what will people opt for?

My sense is that most 7D users are pretty happy with the product as is, but if they were going to change image quality in any way,  they'd go for improved noise and ISO performance and keep the megapixels where they are. (Of course, we'd all like both).

I may be a bit optimistic that the next generation of APS-C sensors will equal the current generation of full frame, but I do expect to see progress (otherwise, why would anyone upgrade?) Perhaps performance will be somewhere between current APS-H and full-frame.

I don't really consider APS-H a viable alternative myself. Too many practical problems and, after 30 years in public relations I am pretty familiar with what terms like "keeping our options open" really mean.
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Re: 7D successor Poll
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2012, 04:48:17 PM »