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thetechhimself

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PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« on: February 22, 2016, 01:01:00 AM »
I had the G1X II, which I used with my 5DIII + L's setup as a personal camera with the 5DIII for events and special occasions, and ended up switching to an EOS M3 +EF-M setup due to a growing young family made the big setup too bulky and the G1X II although great, the wife complained the photos weren't good enough, which I'd agree so the M3 is a great compromise on size, but without sacrificing IQ.

But, Canon has the means to produce a truly masterful upgrade for the G1X III since it was released 3 years ago, addressing all of it's shortfalls... Here's my wishlist...

G1X III

18MP Cropped 80D sensor w/ADC and DPAF (24MP APS-c x .79 IE 1.5" crop of the wafer); DR was/is a real issue on the G1X II, resolution never was, but they can do 18MP, why not?
24-120 IS BR (the lens on the G1X II suffers some considerable CA, which Canon admits learning from when designing the G7X lens, if they could do a BR variant, it'd cure lots of evils...)
DIGIC 7 processor thus 8FPS RAW and JPG
Updated Firmware (the Powershot firmware leaned to wide open on Auto and P, plus high shutters in low light, both required Manual to get it quite right which took a lot of fun out of street shooting)
4K would be nice, but even 1080 @ 60FPS with higher bitrate would be wonderful
Built-in G5X style iEVF
Built-in extended grip (GR-DC1A or better, my M3 grip)
G5X / M3 /G7X dials, IE an exposure comp, and maybe the selection lever, helps if you need to use manual, which you want to, quickly.

I'd be in hog heaven if they did the above. I'd even consider going back to my PowerShot G + 5D setup if they did. The trouble is they need something lightweight, that can punch a little harder than the G5X can; it impresses me, but the IQ doesn't even come close to my G1X II or M3 between that mushy 24-100 lens and 1" sensor they got on it.
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PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2016, 12:49:21 PM »
Looks like that new EF-M patent for 16-80 F/2-6 is actually for a 1.5" (sensor height too shallow to be EF-M mount). Maybe there will be a G1X III? Wonderful if so.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2016, 01:35:29 PM »
I've had the G1X and now have the G1X II.  There is little to want for a upgrade, except for a mythical upgraded sensor, and I doubt if I'd go for that alone.  The lens could be sharper, but overall, it is hard to beat in its category (Being the only one ;) )

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2016, 11:15:26 PM »
I've had the G1X and now have the G1X II.  There is little to want for a upgrade, except for a mythical upgraded sensor, and I doubt if I'd go for that alone.  The lens could be sharper, but overall, it is hard to beat in its category (Being the only one ;) )

Did I just have a bunk unit? I had so many highlight blow outs it wasn't even funny; had to assign a dial for exposure comp, and use it wayyyy too much.

Other complaint, it loves to favor higher shutters, which push the ISO more than I'd like; another manual override being applied lots.

Sounds like silly things, but I personally like creativity, without cumbersome. Coming from a 5DIII which has rock solid metering, you just set your shutter (Tv), or aperture (Av), or be lazy and use P, and shoot. Manual for special cases and sometimes exposure correction.

G1X II required too much babying for my tastes, took all the fun out of shooting. Of course the sensor having low DR made post corrections also a pain if I had said blow outs, noise correction, yada yada.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 05:16:03 AM »
I'm planning to upgrade from my G11 and a G1X III with a 80D sensor would probably scare my Visa card. But I need good image quality. They called it "publication quality" in the Nikon DL commercial. I'm very excited about the Nikon DL 24-85 right now. I'm looking forward to see high-res samples.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2016, 02:17:52 PM »
The samples I've seen are pretty good, but, with delays in the DL pushing it way back in release, Canon may have a stronger response, shipping, before, the Nikon DL hits the streets.

This is the problem with announcing something before it's ready... Nikon has upped the ante, giving competitors time to respond, without actually having a product to absorb the market. Really bad move, but it is what it is.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2016, 03:19:24 PM »
My biggest complaint with the G1x cameras is the electric zoom. It is simply dreadful to use. ( As are all the others like this). Fuji got it right with their system, manually turn the lens to bring it out and switch on, manually turn the barrel to zoom. Works a treat and doesn't use unnecessary power.

Same with manual focus; Fuji got it right, the Canon is horrendous in its manual focus application.

The integral leaf lens cap is a disaster waiting to happen as when it gets damaged it can jam and renders the camera US. Again Fuji show the way; just have a snug push on cap.

Not so sure about building in a viewfinder like the G5x. Having used the slot in one on the EOS M3 and G1xII I'm beginning to feel this is a better, albeit more expensive, solution. (Still don't like EVFs compared with a good OVF though).

I guess that putting in the full size aps sensor would compromise the lens size - or quality. To be honest I think the chopped crop sensor is pretty good for the size of the camera.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2016, 03:19:24 PM »

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2016, 12:36:17 PM »
Agreed, the Manual focus application on the G1X II is difficult, you need the optional EVF with focus peaking enabled, and it's a delayed response, not a fun or inexpensive combination. Most folks don't use MF, but, with contrast detect, you should if you can as I find the AF in the G1X II isn't rock solid by any means. Stationary subjects should be MF.

The 1.5" sensor is about right (cut off crop), the IQ is acceptable; as is the Depth of field and ISO response. You need a 4/3 to get barely acceptable IQ (which the 1.5 falls right between 4/3 and APS-C) but once you get bigger than 4/3, optics get big quick. Even the LX100, is a cut off 4/3, so it's not even truly 4/3.

I for one would love to see another newer 1.5" PowerShot. I'm pretty heavily invested in the EF-M platform at the moment though making it not as much of a solid sell here.

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2016, 11:53:42 PM »
My biggest complaint with the G1x cameras is the electric zoom. It is simply dreadful to use. ( As are all the others like this). Fuji got it right with their system, manually turn the lens to bring it out and switch on, manually turn the barrel to zoom. Works a treat and doesn't use unnecessary power.

Same with manual focus; Fuji got it right, the Canon is horrendous in its manual focus application.

The integral leaf lens cap is a disaster waiting to happen as when it gets damaged it can jam and renders the camera US. Again Fuji show the way; just have a snug push on cap.

Not so sure about building in a viewfinder like the G5x. Having used the slot in one on the EOS M3 and G1xII I'm beginning to feel this is a better, albeit more expensive, solution. (Still don't like EVFs compared with a good OVF though).

I guess that putting in the full size aps sensor would compromise the lens size - or quality. To be honest I think the chopped crop sensor is pretty good for the size of the camera.

 I also dislike the zoom on all P&S cameras.  Some sort of setup option to control zoom speed would be nice, manual would be good too.

A zoom slider on cameras with touch screen that let you move to the desired focal length would work if manual required a redesign.  Memories that could be saved for commonly used focal lengths is another  possibility.  Just touch 24mm or 35mm or 50mm or 85mm or 100mm or 135mm for example!

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Re: PowerShot G1X III Spec wish list
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2016, 11:53:42 PM »