New “Kit Lens” for 5D Mark III? [CR1]

[epsiloneri]

Tjee, 4D won't happen because in japanese and chinese it's unlucky number associated with death.

Well, the number 13 is an unlucky number in the western world, and you don't see that avoided. Except in the US... (I've been in buildings without 13:th floors, they go directly from 12 to 14. Same with some American airlines, I've heard... like seat row number 13 would be particular unlucky in case of an accident?!). Naa, I don't think number superstition is a big factor among camera buyers (and that's what counts). Who cares what it's called, anyway.

BTW , the chinese pronouncation of 5D2 is just like "invincible rabbit" , and the pronouncation of 7D for Cantonese (Hong Kong local language) is just like " much more stupid" .... just for fun

Haha, that's just too funny...

[traveller]

The third body, if it is coming, would probably be a full-frame 1D Mk4n, IMHO. 

Canon justified the APS-H sensor by claiming the advantage of shorter, lighter lenses compared to a full-frame camera and to an extent, this is an advantage.  But it loses out to full-frame cameras in the high ISO stakes and lots of professionals have been lavishing praise on the D3s in this department. 

The reason that I think the 1D line will go full-frame is the emphasis in the press releases that Canon has placed on the reduced weight of the 300mm & 400mm f/2.8L MkIIs over the Mk Is.  A 1D Mk4n would also allow them to incorporate some of the new technology found on the 7D (and other lower end cameras) that was missed on the 1D Mk4, either in the hurry to release it, or because they felt it was untested technology and unsuitable for use in their flagship. 

[baldusi]

How many photographers on this site's forums actually need more than 20 megapixels ?

Personally, I'd rather Canon quit the megapixels race, and go back to improve it's lenses - there's plenty of work for Canon to do there.

I think that Canon SHOULD go forward with the megapixel race IF they invest a lot in pixel binning. I usually can't decide between SRAW1 and SRAW2 (D5mkii). If SRAW2 had 10Mp and binned the pixels to have even less noise and/or better DR, I would surely only shoot that. It can be mathematically proved, that's better to take the "average" of 4 pixels of a quarter area of a single bigger one. Why, because a part of the "noise" is electrical noise. That part can be averaged out. Plus you can do all kind of intelligent Anti Aliasing stuff. Just look at PhaseOne Sensor+ technology.

[bvukich]

BTW , the chinese pronouncation of 5D2 is just like "invincible rabbit"

Ok, that's awesome.  I want one even more now.

[Edwin Herdman]

New kit should be a real 5x zoom like Nikon's latest offering.

24-120 f/4 IS

Done and done.

In other requests, how about  a 24-70 refresh? Haven't asked for that for about 3 days.

If you had to go with just one lens...that would be a handy focal length range and should be manageable from an IQ standpoint.  But I'd rather see a 24-70 update and carry a 70-200 for scenarios that call for it.  (Though, from a video standpoint at least, it's nice to have overlap).

or 1D4

Tjee, 4D won't happen because in japanese and chinese it's unlucky number associated with death.
The pronouncation of the word "four" is almost the same as "death" in those languages.

That hasn't stopped them from using the number 4 in a product name yet. (T2i/550D/Kiss X4)

That's not proof against MadButcher's point because Kiss X4 puts another sound before 4, whereas 4D leads with the unlucky noise (in Japanese: ecksu-shi vs. shi-D).

BTW , the chinese pronouncation of 5D2 is just like "invincible rabbit" , and the pronouncation of 7D for Cantonese (Hong Kong local language) is just like " much more stupid" .... just for fun

Fun!

[tzalmagor]

How many photographers on this site's forums actually need more than 20 megapixels ?

Personally, I'd rather Canon quit the megapixels race, and go back to improve it's lenses - there's plenty of work for Canon to do there.

I think that Canon SHOULD go forward with the megapixel race IF they invest a lot in pixel binning. I usually can't decide between SRAW1 and SRAW2 (D5mkii).

Currently, DxO Optics does not support Canon sRaw and mRaw formats, which would cause me practical problems with such a solution.

Furthermore, I lens prices are an issue for me now. I would rather Canon stop investing in more expensive lenses with greater resolving power than I need and higher price than I can afford, and start investing in lenses I would and could like to buy. Examples would be wide EF non-L primes.

[DJL329]

A new kit lens for the 5D Mark III?  How about a new 50mm EF f/1.4 USM?!?

[PHYSICA]

Fun!

actually the pronouncation is combining chinese word and english word . Chinese word of 5D is just pronounce like the chinese meaning of "invincible", the english word of "two" is just pronounce like chinese word "rabbit", so , a lot of chinese photographer said 5d2 is "invincible rabbit"

BTW, for 5D3. by combining the chinese pronounce and english pronounce, but using cantonese meaning, it might read like " nobody could have a fight with it" ..... or "nobody could beat him"...........approximate meaning in cantonese... (sorry but my english is not so good....)

back to the lens, I not think it'll be a 2nd generation of 24-105, nikon is just issue a lense with 28-300/3.5-5.6 , i think if canon won't left behind , the old 28-300 is too bulky for a guy to carry along the street....

Compare with the new high quality L-Lens with EF mount, for me , I want a Lens with EF-S Mount more, beside of the 10-22, 15-85 & 17-55F2.8 , Canon did not have a Tele-photo lense for EF-S mount with higher quality…. (the 55-250 is so…..) , Nikon just relese a lense of 55-300/4-5.6 with VC & SWM, it's good.....

if canon can introduce a lense just like nikon's 55-300 or like Sigma's 50-150F2.8 DC, that will be a very good news for 7D user. If canon could issue a lense series beside of L-Lens, which indicating the top len series for APS-C system, that will be great XDD   (but i not think canon will do this...)

[Edwin Herdman]

A new kit lens for the 5D Mark III?  How about a new 50mm EF f/1.4 USM?!?

Point well taken...I wouldn't mind more sharpness below f/4.

[Etienne]

new 50 1.4 has my vote too. With IS for video

[dthomasla]

<strong>5D Mark III Kit Lens Update?</strong>

<p>,,,The likelihood is good that an updated kit lens could appear with the 5D Mark III. If Canon is upping the megapixel amount as much as we think they will, more resolving power is definitely needed.</p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong>

  If the resolving power of the old kit lens for the 5Ds is inadequate for the future 5Dlll.....and since the future 5Dlll is expected to have the highest megapixel count of any SLR out there, does this mean that many if not most lenses out there will  not be adequate to the task?

If I buy the 5Dlll will my images be terribly compromised if I don't use "L" lenses?

Could somebody explain the issues related to resolving power and huge megapixel counts?

[Flake]

It's been discussed on several other threads, and basically a non issue.  the MP count would have to rise to 42.5 to even equal the density of the 7D and that's unlikely.