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EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« on: October 28, 2010, 07:37:10 PM »
Coming in 2011 An email showed up this evening confirming a new 100-400 will hit the world sometime in 2011.

NL also received the same information in person at an event in London.

No word on zoom design.

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EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2010, 10:02:07 PM »
Oh goodie! Now we get to fight about whether it should be push-pull or 2-touch. I vote for 2-touch since I have the current version and hate the push-pull action. Also, given the way prices on newly introduced lenses have been going, the new 100-400 will probably cost $2500.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2010, 10:44:19 PM »
I'm a happy camper as long as it's WEATHER-SEALED and no bigger than the 70-200 f/2.8...

Finally... a nex gen model after all these years...
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Re: EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2010, 12:23:54 AM »
oh snap!  totally excited about this ...

bob, I don't know about $2500 ... probably more like $2000?  that would be like a 35% price increase already.

my vote is for 2 touch as well.

as each year goes by, the likelihood of the eternal 100-400 rumor turning into fact becomes more and more likely ... but that being said, canon could easily make us sweat it out for 2 more years.  but you gotta admit, when the other rumor about canon upgrading popular L glass in 2011 came out, you all were thinking the same things too: 24-70 and 100-400 (and maybe a few thinking 35 prime also).

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Re: EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2010, 12:43:28 AM »
Could this be a lens that goes head to head with the Nikon 200-400F4???

I sure hope so. IQ of the current lens is simply not good enough  :P for the high res dSLR.

I expect the price of a 200-400 F4 lens to be $6,000 - $7,000

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2010, 01:09:11 AM »
Could this be a lens that goes head to head with the Nikon 200-400F4???

It could, but then the rumor would be completely wrong. A lens with half the zoom range, larger aperture, much higher weight and 2-3 times the price would hardly be a 100-400 replacement.

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 01:25:01 AM »
Whether or not this year-long rumor turns into reality, I simply refuse to buy the current 100-400 with its dated IS, strange handling (which I might get used to, though...) and its renown for considerable sample variation. So an updated one with improved IQ, IS, and handling and if the Canon brass can keep their greed under control and leave it with say, a 20% price increase, and I will definitely get one. Otherwise, someone else might get the money (and that could even be something other than a lens manufacturer  :D)

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2010, 02:31:23 AM »
Could this be a lens that goes head to head with the Nikon 200-400F4???

It could, but then the rumor would be completely wrong. A lens with half the zoom range, larger aperture, much higher weight and 2-3 times the price would hardly be a 100-400 replacement.

I agree.

The current EF 100-400/4.5-5.6 cost $1,500. A 30% raise is reasonable. A 60% is borderline. Anything more and I go for the Sigma, which is $500 cheaper than the current model to begin with.

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2010, 06:06:45 AM »
Could this be a lens that goes head to head with the Nikon 200-400F4???

It could, but then the rumor would be completely wrong. A lens with half the zoom range, larger aperture, much higher weight and 2-3 times the price would hardly be a 100-400 replacement.

I agree.

The current EF 100-400/4.5-5.6 cost $1,500. A 30% raise is reasonable. A 60% is borderline. Anything more and I go for the Sigma, which is $500 cheaper than the current model to begin with.

The funny thing is that the Current 100-400/4.5-5.6 is 1500 USD, the Nikon's 200-400/4 is 7000$

So anything in between can be anything in between...

It's a bit disturbing to think about it... If canon made it fixed f/4 aperture, it will for sure be at least 4000-5000$, if not more given that it has a wider range.

If they made it the same apertures as the current one, they will for sure increase the price quiet much, they see what Nikon lenses are being charged for, and this encourages them to increase the prices (70-200 2.8 II ?)

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2010, 06:09:33 AM »
Which Sigma though?  There are loads around this focal length with various apertures, the 100 - 300mm f/4 is reckoned a great performer there's the Bigma 150 - 500mm now with OS although the aperture is a bit slow, or perhaps the 120 - 300mm f/2.8 (also now with OS) which is 170 - 420mm at F/4 or 240 - 600mm f5.6 with teleconverters, also a very good performer and the cheapest way to get to 600mm and still maintain autofocus.

Then there's the 120 - 400mm OS the 70 - 200mm f/2.8 will take a TC, and also lets not forget the 200 - 500mm f/2.8 if you have bottomless pockets and huge muscles!

Choices choices!

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2010, 06:18:06 AM »
Which Sigma though?  There are loads around this focal length with various apertures

The 150-500mm, which is indeed a bit slow. It's a compromise I would apparently have to do because my pockets are not bottomless pits of cash.

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Re: EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 06:41:58 AM »
Even though I just bought the current 100-400L, an update would be great.  I'm happy with the current version, but better IQ, faster autofocus, weathersealing, and a 4 stop IS would get me to trade up.  But I hope they stay away from the Nikon and it's price range.

As mentioned by others above, I am hoping that the rumors that Canon is going toward big megapixel camera is necessitating the update of their "flagship" lenses to improve IQ.  But, we'll see.   ;)

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Re: EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2010, 08:13:43 AM »
A 70-400mm, like the Sony equivalen, would be good. 

Given the suggested retail price of the new 70-300mm lens, I can't see a 100-400mm selling for less than £2000 (sorry, can't be bothered to convert to US$!).

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Re: EF 100-400 Version 2 Coming [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2010, 08:37:13 AM »
as a sigma owner, I have to say I'd be surprised if the 150-500 comes anywhere close to the performance of the 100-400, not in terms of AF, but image quality.  it's got the harshest bokeh out of any of my lenses and is fairly soft across the board, even when stopped down to f/8.

the sigma 100-300 is a totally different story; light, fast, good range, crisp optics ... too bad there's no OS in it but perhaps sigma will fix that soon

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2010, 11:35:02 AM »
I don't get why we need this lens. I'd rather have a proper 400 f/4 and carry around the 70-200 2.8 for the rest of the range. I admit I've never really used the 100-400, because it is such a mixed bag, but I question how useful it really is. I guess as part of a light kit when combined with the 24-105 it is a pretty neat 2 lens getup. I just know that I can't afford much redundancy. Each lens has to count. I have to find a good way to rationalize the focal length redundancy. Maybe if the new optic is really superb, it will make sense. But I have to say a 100-400 makes the August announcement of a 70-300 look even stranger. I mean how many zoom lenses does Canon need between 70 and 400? There must be at least 10 now.

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