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Re: Speedlite 600 EX
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 12:08:00 AM »
Interesting thread. Buying a flash to control the 600 ex-rt seems to be the smart option. That way I can have 2 flashes for the price of 600 and the controller.

Question pls: What is the smallest flash I can buy to put on 5d4 that will control the 600? This way I can use the small flash independently for family/casual photos...


Canon makes a Speedlite 90EX flash that will serve as an optical master for the 600 EX-RT and others that are capable of being an optical slave. It is fairly inexpensive. It works on a 5D IV. It is very small. It is not a radio master, but an optical master.

Thank you. Hmmm. But radio is better. As sometimes the needs are such.

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Re: Speedlite 600 EX
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 12:08:00 AM »

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Re: Speedlite 600 EX-RT with Canon 5D Mk 4?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 09:35:51 AM »
I have 1 x Canon 600 EX RT and 3 x 430 EX III RT flashes, plus a few other flashes (e.g. Nissin 866mkii and 430EX II).

Radio triggering is definitely handy over optical in certain scenarios (e.g. outdoors, behind objects, etc).

The 430EX III RTs are slightly better built, and menu system more intuitive than the 430EX II... plus of course the III RTs have radio control. Sometimes I use the optical trigger from my 80D / 7D's built in flash.  Othertimes I use one 430EX III to trigger others.  The 600 RT are the best of the bunch in terms of features, ergonomics, build quality (and power).

I also have the ST R3 clone from Yongnuo, and it's great - reliable, better built than the early Yongnuo items, and has a great menu system... useful as it's fairly logical / close to the 600 RT feel / menu. (The ST R3 clone also has a useful AF assist, that the full Canon ST R3 doesn't).  Plus having the little / lighter controller is better than having a big / cumbersome flash on top to control other off camera flashes (especially after a long time I feel it in my wrist.)

As I bought all my flashes 2nd hand, it didn't cost me too much... I wait for good bargains!  I bought the Yongnuo controller new (for about $70 USD).  I also have 4 Cactus transceivers / controllers, which are useful when I want longer range (And which I had before I bought I got into the Canon RT system).  They have been a good step up and have some specific / special features, but now that I'm into Canon directly, they are a bit redundant for most of my flash photography, as just using the Canon RT system directly is quicker / easier.

I'm very happy with my options... it gives me a LOT of flexibility, and decent power for pretty much all situations I have need of.

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Re: Speedlite 600 EX
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 10:22:55 AM »
Interesting thread. Buying a flash to control the 600 ex-rt seems to be the smart option. That way I can have 2 flashes for the price of 600 and the controller.

Question pls: What is the smallest flash I can buy to put on 5d4 that will control the 600? This way I can use the small flash independently for family/casual photos...


Canon makes a Speedlite 90EX flash that will serve as an optical master for the 600 EX-RT and others that are capable of being an optical slave. It is fairly inexpensive. It works on a 5D IV. It is very small. It is not a radio master, but an optical master.

Thank you. Hmmm. But radio is better. As sometimes the needs are such.

I usually just use another 600.  When using multiple flashes, it's easier when they all have the same max power level.  I also have the ST-E3-RT for when I need to use all my flashes to light the subject(s) and the background, but otherwise, I just use one of the 600s in the hotshoe to trigger the rest.  It's heavier, but the AF assist is really helpful because the "studio" is usually pretty dark (no modeling lights).

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Re: Speedlite 600 EX
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 05:42:26 PM »
Interesting thread. Buying a flash to control the 600 ex-rt seems to be the smart option. That way I can have 2 flashes for the price of 600 and the controller.

Question pls: What is the smallest flash I can buy to put on 5d4 that will control the 600? This way I can use the small flash independently for family/casual photos...

Canon makes a Speedlite 90EX flash that will serve as an optical master for the 600 EX-RT and others that are capable of being an optical slave. It is fairly inexpensive. It works on a 5D IV. It is very small. It is not a radio master, but an optical master.

Thank you. Hmmm. But radio is better. As sometimes the needs are such.

I have tried the 90EX as optical master. It is pretty much hopeless as a master, as the reach is very short, only 2-3 meters if I recall correctly.

Radio is the way to go!

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Re: Speedlite 600 EX-RT with Canon 5D Mk 4?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2018, 02:27:57 PM »
So, I just updated (added to) my 3 Speedlite 500 EX's with 2 600EX-RT's and the on camera controller, since the price seems to be dropping. But, why is the price dropping? I'm planning on getting a 5D MK4 or new 1dx when they come out, and, I now wondering if the new bodies will add something cool that will obsolete the 600 EX-RT's.   :-[
Thoughts?   ???
I use two 600 EX-RT's off camera all the time with 5DII and 1DX.  Works great.
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Re: Speedlite 600 EX-RT with Canon 5D Mk 4?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2018, 02:31:53 PM »
Interesting thread. Buying a flash to control the 600 ex-rt seems to be the smart option. That way I can have 2 flashes for the price of 600 and the controller.

Question pls: What is the smallest flash I can buy to put on 5d4 that will control the 600? This way I can use the small flash independently for family/casual photos...

The 600 EX-RT functions in master and slave mode, so you need another one to control the off camera flash.

Downside is that one flash has to be on camera or have a pc cord.

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Cameras: 1DXII,5D III, 5D II.  Lenses    24-70 2.8L II IS, 70-200 f4L IS, 70-200 f2.8L IS II, EF 400 5.6L, 300 2.8 IS II, Samyang 14 mm 2.8.   Flashes: 600EX-RT X 2, ST-E3-RT, 580 EX II.
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Re: Speedlite 600 EX-RT with Canon 5D Mk 4?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2018, 02:31:53 PM »