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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2012, 12:14:42 AM »
Canon 1DX  RRP pricing in Austalia" rip off"

Canon USA expected retail pricing around $6800

Canon AUS expected retail pricing around $9990


If you're buying it for hobby, yes it is expensive.

If your business is buying it then you should be subtracting the GST from $9990.

So if you had your own business in Australia and bought the 1DX locally as part of the equipment necessary to carry out your work as a professional photographer than you claim back the GST, meaning the end price is $9082. If your company were to import it from another seller in the USA, cost is going to be ~$7500 for the camera plus shipping plus insurance.

$1500 difference to a business.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2012, 01:46:30 AM »
If your business is buying it then you should be subtracting the GST from $9990.

So if you had your own business in Australia and bought the 1DX locally as part of the equipment necessary to carry out your work as a professional photographer than you claim back the GST, meaning the end price is $9082. If your company were to import it from another seller in the USA, cost is going to be ~$7500 for the camera plus shipping plus insurance.

$1500 difference to a business.
Sure on the GST part, but if you're paying $700 for shipping and insurance on a single camera you're doing something wrong. I'd expect more like $250 at retail cost (for a few weeks delivery) considering every freight company I can think of charges < 1% insurance to Australia. If you're a reseller with a half-decent freight contract I'd say importing 10 would be more like $300 for freight and $700 for insurance giving $100 a piece.

Then remember an Australian Canon reseller should be getting a wholesale price, if you buy from a US retail outlet they've already taken an extra cut as well. Sure I'd expect them to cost a bit more here, but an extra few grand sounds a bit rich to me.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2012, 05:13:59 AM »
I think the thing is that these companies that are importing the camera and forcing the higher prices are also the ones that are complaining that people are buying "Grey Imports" and also internet/online stores such as DCW and eGlobal etc.

The fact is that until we the consumer stop purchasing at these higher prices they will not re examine the pricing rates.

I have heard prices range from $10k down to as low as $6500 for the 1DX. The main difference being that one is from a bricks and mortar store and the other is from an internet based one.

There is no such thing as a counterfeit DSLR camera, sure they may have different plugs and or crappy manuals but then you can always buy these things with the money you save or download the manuals from the Canon site. (here when available)

It all balls down to warranty and how much is it worth to you?
The convenience of being able to take your camera back to the place of purchase to get it repaired compared to the weeks it could take to ship it back to china or wherever the online store is located.

either way I'm waiting on more solid pricing (and not just pre order) to emerge from places like B&H and the other online stores so we can see what we are really paying.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2012, 06:22:06 PM »
also if you are a business and you buy it from say B&H
it comes through customs and they hit you up for the GST it doesnt matter
because you claim it back anyway so the net cost to your business is the same
the real difference is $6800 compared to $9000 after GST is credited back, give or take a bit depending on actual prices, thats $2000 or so per body and if you are likely to be getting 2 or 3 or more bodies it adds up real quick and the benefits to buying local diminish very rapidly. Just because people are buying it for business use doesnt mean they are not going to take note of savings of this magnitude.
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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2012, 07:39:49 PM »
Where was the original information about the Australian pricing of the 1DX?
I've done a search and found nothing.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2012, 08:55:42 PM »
Where was the original information about the Australian pricing of the 1DX?
I've done a search and found nothing.

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It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2012, 09:43:02 PM »

It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au


... which is the same price that they have listed for the D4.  I doubt the number is real.

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I just saw that according to CNET (http://www.cnet.com.au/canon-powershot-g1x-339328515.htm Canon has set a tentative MSRP of AUD 849.00 for the G1X - $50 odd higher than the USA launch MSRP.  Hopefully that bodes well for the 1DX price in Australia.  Of course the G1X and 1DX target totally different market segments, so Canon Australia could have totally different pricing strategies for the two.
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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2012, 12:53:08 AM »

It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au


... which is the same price that they have listed for the D4.  I doubt the number is real


Ha! Yes I doubt we'll see anything resembling real 1DX pricing until it actually starts shipping.
Just for a laugh I did a tighter search and found the 1DX is available for just AU$15,999. Better line up for this one...

http://www.techrific.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=2403&cPath=127#myshopping&utm_source=myshopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Digital+Cameras&utm_term=Canon+EOS+1DX+1D+X+Digital+SLR+Camera+Kits+Body+Only+NO+Credi

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2012, 01:48:35 AM »

It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au

... which is the same price that they have listed for the D4.  I doubt the number is real.


 ???I don't know where it is that you saw the price of the D4 the same as the 1Dx, I just checked their site, they're selling the 1D4 for $5,699.00 and the 1Ds3 for $7,399.00, both considerably less than their 1Dx price!

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2012, 03:34:15 AM »

It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au

 Hopefully that bodes well for the 1DX price in Australia.  Of course the G1X and 1DX target totally different market segments, so Canon Australia could have totally different pricing strategies for the two.


I hope it bodes well too.....but seems unlikely.  Canon Australia has been forced to reduce prices of the lower end gear to international levels - e.g. I think 60Ds are pretty much the same here as anywhere.  If you go higher up the totem pole the gap is still there. 

Anything up to $1000 you can import grey with no GST - so that makes a big difference which Canon has to fight with more aggressive pricing here. 

I think the most important thing is that if you're buying a "cheap" camera (of course that's relative!!) you might be happy to risk a non-Canon repair if something breaks.  But if you've shelled out big bucks for your dream camera and lens(es) and you're not quite sure if it's working perfectly and you want to be able to take it to Canon and ask them to check it out - well you can't if it's grey.  (For L lenses they will apparently honour international warranty, but not bodies).  You could probably pay for them to check it out, but it's possible that they might just refuse to touch it - they are under no (legal) obligation.

So you can pay a fair (grey market) price and hope for the best, or pay Canon Australia a few hundred (or thousand) $ extra "insurance" for a Canon warranty. 

Or be happy with what you've got and not upgrade at all!

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2012, 03:54:27 AM »

It's advertised for $9,999.00 at Digidirect.com.au


... which is the same price that they have listed for the D4.  I doubt the number is real.




 ???I don't know where it is that you saw the price of the D4 the same as the 1Dx, I just checked their site, they're selling the 1D4 for $5,699.00 and the 1Ds3 for $7,399.00, both considerably less than their 1Dx price!


http://www.digidirect.com.au/slr_cameras/nikon/nikon_d4_digital_slr_camera_body

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2012, 05:25:17 AM »
Given that the other comments about 1DX priving are that the US$6800 price is not fixed in stone (and may well drop on release), anyone in Australia that is quoting prices now would seem to be doing so quite prematurely.

That is unless the Canon import business has already decided that the 1DX will sell for the same price as the 1Ds did, regardless of the US price.

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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2012, 06:21:55 PM »
Just noticed that the $6800USD does not include their Sales Tax.

That can vary from state to state from 0% - 18% depending on where your located.

Might pay to add that to the price also (average is 14%)  but even then its still way cheaper than what we would be slugged.

Funnily enough i have been getting told the same kind of wild prices for the 5D3 pre orders too.
Everything ranging from $2500 - $7000.

Instead of the companies saying "we don't know" they take a wild guess and get you to put a deposit (the bigger the better) onto a camera you have no idea of the cost so you can be one of the first adopters.
why?
Simple ... remember the waits for the 5D2 last time?

This is why they do it.
If it comes out and you have paid a $2000 deposit on what you thought was going to be a $5000 camera and the final RRP is $2800 you only have $800 difference and so think that its was a bargain.
It gives the company ordering it for you the ability to say, we got you the best deal we could, and they come out the heroes.

Either way i just wish they would hurry up and give us more details on these cameras (1DX, 5D3, CinemaDSLR, C300) so we can work out what the damage will be to our credit cards.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2012, 05:46:25 PM »
I live in New Zealand and have the same problem with the pricing of Canon gear. I find it hard to justify supporting my local camera shop when their price is 30% higher than on Amazon USA. Parrallel importers (with an office and back-up in Auckland) are a good 30% cheaper on some lenses.

I too believe that it is Canon NZ keeping the price artificially high for whatever reason. Maybe because they need higher margin to support the cost of having offices in a country with a much smaller market?

Whatever it is, I can buy a brand new 5Dmk2 on Amazon for less than a used one on internet auction site here in NZ. You do the math  ;)

I'd love to buy the next generation full frame 5D equivalent but I know it will be daylight robbery for the first 6 months of being available.

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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2012, 04:01:51 AM »
I spoke to the guys at Michaels (Can you say "expensive"?) this afternoon.  They mentioned a number of $8199 for the 1DX, but that is, according to them, still tentative.  MSRP for the Powershot G1X is confirmed at $849.  Apparently MSRP for the D4 is confirmed at around $7400.  I wonder if Canon will come down closer to that level to match Nikon?

Michaels have also had both the D4 and 1DX to try out, but were not able to get any images off the 1DX.
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Re: Canon 1DX pricing in Australia
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2012, 04:01:51 AM »