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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 04:29:07 PM »


nikon has a better 50mm lens.
problem for us canon user: sigma has a kind of bad reputation, zeiss is very expensiv and has no AF.

from Canon's perspective, they don't have to worry about replacing the 50mm any time soon then, do they?

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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 04:29:07 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 04:30:07 PM »
anyway... the question is why can, for example, olympus design new lenses en mass for m43 and canon has lenses that are methusalems?
it´s not as if a 50mm prime for 35mm is so much harder to design then for m43.
 

and the standards for the non L lenses are not as high.

a 400mm f2.8 is a different beast then a 35mm or 50mm.




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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 04:32:53 PM »
from Canon's perspective, they don't have to worry about replacing the 50mm any time soon then, do they?

they don´t.
that´s what im saying. but it´s not because they could not afford the R&D.

the new lens could as well sell for 8-10 years. with an IQ that´s better fitted for digital sensors.



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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2012, 05:11:54 PM »
I think I have been waiting patiently for at 200-400/f4 since about the time Saddam Hussein was seeing his last days. It's been a LONG time and to be completely fair, until the 70-300 came out, Canon's long zooms were kind of lame. The 100-400 is kind of lame. It's not like there's something that "kinda" works in this range to replace the 100-400 or 200-400 either. The choice is between inflexible long primes and mediocre long zooms. Nikon makes an absolute killer 200-400/f4. I just hate their camera line-up.

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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2012, 05:26:33 PM »
Back to the thread topic itself...

it suffices to say that Canon would like to get new technology to us as soon as economically possible.  I was in Tokyo when the earthquake hit last year -- lots of damage to many manufacturers, to say the very least (not to mention the human toll.) 

Lenses and camera are all on loose cycles.  Those cycles are getting shorter with the fast rise of Nikon, who blitzed their lineup in 2007.  Canon is beginning to react, it just takes time so let's be patient  :D

Lens releases per year:

Nikon  |  Canon (with specific models)
(6) 2011 (4): 500mm II; 600mm II; 18-55mm EF-S; 55-250mm EF-S
(9) 2010 (7): 300mm II; 400mm II; 8-15mm; 70-300m L; 1.4TC; 2.0TC; 70-200 II
(7) 2009 (5): 100mm Macro; 15-85mm EF-S; 18-135mm EF-S; 17mm TS; 24mm TS;
(7) 2008 (4): 24mm f/1.4 II; 18-200mm EF-S; 200mm f/2; 800mm
(7) 2007 (4): 16-35mm f/2.8; 14mm f/2.8 II; 55-250mm EF-S; 18-55mm EF-S
(4) 2006 (3): 70-200mm f/4 IS; 50mm f/1.2; 85mm f/1.2; 17-55mm EF-S;
(2) 2005 (4): 60mm EF-S; 24-105mm; 70-300mm IS; 18-55mm EF-S
(4) 2004 (4): 70-300mm DO IS; 28-300mm; 10-22mm EF-S; 17-85mm; 28-90mm


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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 06:15:52 PM »

the EF 35mm f1.4 is from 1998.


This is a very highly regarded lens, seems to do better in tests than some lenses that are much newer. Seems to me that optical technology is pretty stable, especially prime lenses.

There are some lenses especially non L primes long overdue for an update (e.g. 35mm f/2)  but I don't see what the case is to release new versions of all of these lenses.

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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 08:01:51 PM »
Between Nikon rapidely updating a lot of its lens, and Canon releasing at least 2-3 new pro body this year, it is only natural that we will see several new updates for Canon lens and we should be excited about it!  After all, since the lens is likely the most important factor for IQ, why not be all excited here...plus its fun to talk about!

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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 11:28:10 PM »

I think we already have enough cops who like waving their badges around here. What I don't need is another one telling people they need to "calm down."

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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 05:08:35 AM »
There are some lenses especially non L primes long overdue for an update (e.g. 35mm f/2)  but I don't see what the case is to release new versions of all of these lenses.

maybe you should look at olympus lenses released for µ43.

they have incredible good MTF numbers, like the 45mm f1.8.

that what is possible today... canons 10 and more year old lenses are outdated compared to that.

so olympus, a struggling company, can release great new lenses but canon has not managed to create a new 50mm lens in 20 years.


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it suffices to say that Canon would like to get new technology to us as soon as economically possible.  I was in Tokyo when the earthquake hit last year

it´s not about last year.. it´s about a decade or two....

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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 04:23:50 AM »
I guess it could be worse canon could start releasing updates that are updates in name only so to make consumers think its new tech. That would be a bit low. right?
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Re: I think we all need to calm down regarding lens announcements
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 04:23:50 AM »