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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2012, 10:14:45 AM »
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors.  I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 10:58:23 AM »
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors.  I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

+1

I carry two all day (just got home after 4 hours shooting) with the BR double harness

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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 12:02:44 PM »
Seriously.. i'm unboxing my 24-70mm right now. I'm sick of this rumor :)

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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 05:09:55 PM »

I just wish there was a 24-75 2.8
Pool your scientists and make it happen!

My Tamron is 28-75
My Canon is 24-70

The 24-105 sucks because F4 sucks.

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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 06:17:46 PM »
If it is still a prototype, and it's a possible for launch alongside a 5D Mark III/a boxed set - then that kind of hints that we won't be seeing a release of the 5DMK III for a bit, right?
Did the 24-105 boxed set arrive at the same time as the 5D Mk II alone, or come after?

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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 06:23:48 PM »
If it is still a prototype, and it's a possible for launch alongside a 5D Mark III/a boxed set - then that kind of hints that we won't be seeing a release of the 5DMK III for a bit, right?

That's one heck of a leap of logic.

At this point, the only thing we know for sure, is that there's nothing we know for sure.

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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 06:31:40 PM »
The 24-105 sucks because F4 sucks.

That's simply an absurd statement.

If f/4 isn't fast enough for your shooting style; then fine, the lens is unsuitable for you.  But claiming it sucks because it's f/4 is like claiming a 135/2L sucks because it isn't a zoom.  It just isn't a cogent argument.

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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 07:01:10 PM »
It's obviously a personal preference I'm stating.
I'd own the 24-105 if it was faster.  I'm just not in the presence of good light often enough to deal with a lens like that.

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2012, 07:51:15 PM »
It's obviously a personal preference I'm stating.

It's obvious to me, but when people make broad generalizations like that; it's usually not obvious to them, hence my comment.

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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2012, 09:00:39 PM »
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors.  I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

+1 My RS7 is easily one of the best purchases I've made. Get any R-Strap and weight won't be an issue anymore. If you still have troubles getting the camera up to your face, then you may need to work out a little ;)

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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2012, 11:53:27 PM »
Here's a brilliant idea. Why not let the consumer decide? Release BOTH the 24-70mm II and bulky and heavy 24-70mm IS side by side. This worked amazingly for the 70-200mm line.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2012, 12:03:56 AM »
the good thing is no IS & keeping external zoom shouldn't mean a dramatic price increase.

Pure, unfettered optimism.   :P  The 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II was the same basic physical design as its predecessor (internal zoom, with IS), and still Canon managed to set an MSRP that was a 32% premium over the original (translating to >$1800 for the 24-70mm II).

Actually if you adjust for inflation and exchange rate both lenses cost the exact same price. In fact Canon has charged the exact same price with almost no variation for every lens they have upgraded since the 80's. The lens will cost the same at intro no matter what, profit per lens will instead vary, though total profit is the goal.

I'm sure total profit would be higher with IS and the same weight and size but would be lower if it is too bulky, IS is not very expensive at all. Still it can't hurt to release both with a higher profit margin on the IS. Say $2000 for the regular and $2700 would work from my research into the cost of IS on Canon's end.
 
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2012, 06:04:24 PM »
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors.  I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

+1 My RS7 is easily one of the best purchases I've made. Get any R-Strap and weight won't be an issue anymore. If you still have troubles getting the camera up to your face, then you may need to work out a little ;)

I carry my 100-400 on a Black Rapid 7. Very nice, much "lighter" and it doesn't bang into the tripod like it did on a regular neck strap.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2012, 06:45:29 PM »
Based on rumors over the years, Canon has yet to find a design that users really like, but then, I never liked the five copies of the existing 24-70mm L that I had. 

I certainly hope they can come up with one that is better and lighter. 

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 06:04:32 AM »
I'm sick of this rumor too, I'm gonna order the current version next Friday, it's back in stock  :P
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