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Re: Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Mark II
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2014, 10:35:14 AM »
Thanks everyone. So far I am pleased with the results everyone has obtained with this new lens. Mine is due for delivery today. Looking forward to putting it through its paces over the next few days.
Agree!
Great thanks to all who has posted and commented on it. So far, I like what I am seeing. Will wait until January before pulling the trigger.

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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2014, 10:35:14 AM »

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Re: Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Mark II
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2014, 06:01:33 PM »
   Can lock at any focal length... good... this is one feature that I want to confirm before consider this lens.


Mine does not lock per se.  You can use the friction ring to tighten the zoom ring, but even when it's at its tightest setting, I can still turn it.

That said, the lens appears to lock automatically 400. Even at the loosest friction setting, mine doesn't budge at 400, even when I'm pointing it straight up. It seems much more loose between 100 and about 250mm, though if you tighten the friction ring, it will stay in place. It just isn't a true lock.

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Re: Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Mark II
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2014, 07:13:32 PM »
The full image is a lovely shot, seanature. Great first post, welcome to CR.  :)

Thanks Click & Ryan85!

A few more thoughts:
There is much less fringing with the mark II, especially when paired with the 1.4 teleconverter. Mid-tone contrast also seems better, especially toward the corners.

I did some side-by-side testing of the IS in the mark I and mark II, and the mark II seems at least two stops better. I did one extreme test where I photographed a scene at 250mm, firing off a burst of 6 frames with each lens at 1/6 of a second. With the Mark II, two frames were sharp enough to publish straight out of the camera. Another could probably be salvaged fairly easily with the Photoshop shake reduction feature. The other three were soft. With the Mark I, every frame was impressionistic.

It was a ridiculous test, but I frequently used my original 100-400 from boats and kayaks and wanted to see what I could get away with.

I hope that helps.

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« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2014, 07:51:02 PM »
Unfortunately (fortunately for me), my MK I sold yesterday before I had a chance to take side by side photos.  There is no doubt that the MK II is better, mostly the IS, the edges of the frame, and the AF speed. 

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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2014, 11:30:49 AM »

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Re: Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Mark II
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2014, 11:58:23 AM »

It was a ridiculous test, but I frequently used my original 100-400 from boats and kayaks and wanted to see what I could get away with.

I hope that helps.
Maybe ridiculous test for others, but not for me.
Actually, I am wondering if you could repeat similar test for 1/20 and 1/30th sec and see how much keepers you have.
I do alot of low light panning and thinking about using this lens for that purpose once have the fund for it in January.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L Mark II
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2014, 06:59:16 PM »
Maybe ridiculous test for others, but not for me.
Actually, I am wondering if you could repeat similar test for 1/20 and 1/30th sec and see how much keepers you have.
I do alot of low light panning and thinking about using this lens for that purpose once have the fund for it in January.
Thanks in advance.

There are a lot of variables with this lens, so it's hard to provide you with really useful, scientific findings. If you're using the lens at 200mm or shorter, then I think the IS is good enough to get sharp images about half the time. The success rate will be a little higher at 1/30 and fairly reliable at 1/60.

At 400mm, I think getting a sharp image at 1/20 or 1/30 is going to be a pure stroke of luck.

Technique plays a huge part of this as well. At 260mm, the slowest I've been able to shoot and get a sharp image is 1/5, but the lens was perfectly horizontal, braced well against my body, and I was holding my breath and shooting between heartbeats.

I've tried using the IS to shoot at an angle and the reliability falls off dramatically, which I'm sure is because I'm not able to brace it as well.

I know the IS is rated for four stops. I think you can count on three and can get four or a little more with exceptional technique.

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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2014, 10:38:30 PM »
The success rate will be a little higher at 1/30 and fairly reliable at 1/60.
At 400mm, I think getting a sharp image at 1/20 or 1/30 is going to be a pure stroke of luck.
Below is an example of how I inted to use it for. This was shot at 1/80s, 600mm (300mm f4+2x) on a monopod, but it is a bit soft, hence my hope to get a better result using 1.4TC with this new lens.
Usually, I start around 1/100s and as I get more keepers I go slower and slower ending at 1/30s.
Handheld at 1/60s would be a dream for me, but if keeper is too low I would put a monopod. 10% is acceptable.
The most important criteria at this time is sharpness.
Anyway, decision is made; I will get one. Thanks for the input.


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« Reply #38 on: Today at 02:39:54 PM »
Finally, the sun popped thru this morning, so I went out to take some photos of The TV Tower on Mount Spokane 7.5 miles away.  I had previously taken some with my MK I lens and Canon TC MK II's.
 
This time, I just snapped them hand held, using phase detect AF with no AFMA.  That's a bit unfair, since the first version was done with live view and manual focus at 10X.  I may update them when I have more time.
 
Here are my older shots with the MK I lens:  I had a 1D MK III for this, so the image is smaller.
 

 
 
 
Crop of MK I with 1.4X
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Here is the MK II lens 560mm equiv, 1/1000 sec, f/10 effective aperture, ISO 400 on my 5D Mark III.  Its a different camera, but it did well.  7.5 miles is a lot of air to distort the image.  Years later, the trees have grown a lot, so I had to move to a different angle to take the shot.
 
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Cropped and sharpness tweaked:
 

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