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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 06:26:39 PM »
I am sure D4 has caused Canon to do something before the release... either to barely compete and survive, or to completely smash it! Either 1Dx is going to blow D4 away, or it is going to suck.

Really? Suck against a D4?
Umm, i don't think so. I've seen nothing in the D4 that says 'buy me'.
The 1DX on the other hand - if i'd been able to buy one at the London CPS - would have left me operating on a single kidney :o

I've already seen comments by several Nikon users who are not overly excited by the D4, and say the D3s's are good for another few years. Some have even commented that it should allow them to replace a D3 with a D3s as the price will hopefully drop.

How many Canon Pro's have you seen say they are looking forward to the release of the 1DX so they can replace their 1D3 with a cheap 1D4?

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 06:26:39 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 06:44:22 PM »
I am sure D4 has caused Canon to do something before the release... either to barely compete and survive, or to completely smash it! Either 1Dx is going to blow D4 away, or it is going to suck.

Really? Suck against a D4?
Umm, i don't think so. I've seen nothing in the D4 that says 'buy me'.
The 1DX on the other hand - if i'd been able to buy one at the London CPS - would have left me operating on a single kidney :o

I've already seen comments by several Nikon users who are not overly excited by the D4, and say the D3s's are good for another few years. Some have even commented that it should allow them to replace a D3 with a D3s as the price will hopefully drop.

How many Canon Pro's have you seen say they are looking forward to the release of the 1DX so they can replace their 1D3 with a cheap 1D4?

I agree that in atself as it was announced the 1DX is already a preatty impressive camera that many of us cant wait to get our hands on!  That said, unless they are having some real issues with their batteries, this could very well mean some final tweaking to smash the D4 in my mind.  They cannot afford to mess this one up...

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 07:17:45 PM »
Hmm... Sounds like a bit of trouble for Canon; they'd best be able to meet demand when it does go on sale with the Olympics being only a few months away. 

I don't think they'd be able to do anything in hardware to rectify the f/8 focusing issue, but they might try to rewrite the firmware to enable it.  Lets hope they don't b*gger it up it the process!

As to the comments that Canon omitted f/8 AF sensors to force people to purchase longer lenses, sorry I just don't buy this argument.  If you'e in the market for the 1D X then you'll buy whatever tools allow you to do the job: there isn't much beyond the 600 f/4L and 800 f/5.6L available, what about the people (like Arthur Morris) who already use these lenses on the 1D Mk4 with teleconverters?

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 07:31:23 PM »
I think the f/8 problem is a huge issue.  No 2x TC on the new 500II or 600II or 1.4x on the 800L if you want to autofocus.  To make matters worse,  the Nikon D4 can auotfocus at f/8.  I think somebody at Canon dropped the ball here.  This has to be an over-sight and not intentional.

I think the new battery makes the camera a little heavy and probaly pushing 1300g+.  I can imagine shooting all day with the 1D X with either the 85L, 70-200II or the 24-70L attached to it.

Did you mean "can't" or can imagine 1d X with a 85 all day? beacuse I can imagine that, it's what we all have done so far, and the weight difference between a mk4 and a 1d X is nothing....

I think some people need to go push weights in the gym. If an old man like me can do it I am sure you youngsters can manage

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 07:36:51 PM »
:o I was hoping otherwise, but if this is true, Canon at least lost a small shop in ours. Not a dent in their bottomline, but can't help either losing customers.

Please tell me you're trolling.  I'd be a lot more worried about my own store's bottom line if I decided to stop carrying products made by one of two juggernauts in the industry.  That's just silly.

What is silly is that you assume we are a store selling camera gear. We could care less about brands at this point.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 08:47:51 PM »
What is silly is that you assume we are a store selling camera gear. We could care less about brands at this point.

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 08:57:03 PM »
This are not good news, or wait, maybe not so bad since I'm pretty delayed with my savings for this camera ;)
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 09:00:57 PM »
I'm curious how truly valuable f/8 AF is. I have some friends who shoot a lot of air shows. Most of them use the 70-200 f/2.8 and/or 300 f/2.8 lenses, often with a 2x TC, which would put the aperture at f/5.6. All of them have numerous stories about the times they put on both a 2x and a 1.4x on their 300's, which would put aperture at f/8. All of them have also noted, on many occasions, how painfully, PAINFULLY slow AF is at f/8 on a 1D series body.

If AF at f/8 is really that bad...is it really all that important? How many people use and *need* f/8 AF to really make it worth Canon's while to "fix" the "lack" of it in the 1D X?
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 09:06:43 PM »
I'm curious how truly valuable f/8 AF is. I have some friends who shoot a lot of air shows. Most of them use the 70-200 f/2.8 and/or 300 f/2.8 lenses, often with a 2x TC, which would put the aperture at f/5.6. All of them have numerous stories about the times they put on both a 2x and a 1.4x on their 300's, which would put aperture at f/8. All of them have also noted, on many occasions, how painfully, PAINFULLY slow AF is at f/8 on a 1D series body.

If AF at f/8 is really that bad...is it really all that important? How many people use and *need* f/8 AF to really make it worth Canon's while to "fix" the "lack" of it in the 1D X?

I'm a photojournalist and I cannot imagine one situation where I need to use f8. I normally use f2.8
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2012, 09:38:29 PM »
F8 or sophisticated auto focussing, what ever it may be!! it doesn't help much in video.
Nikon D4 did a best job in terms of video than 1DX. canon will be in kodaks place one day, with their marketing strategy.

so it delays until, found 'where they have lost'.
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2012, 09:43:21 PM »
I'm curious how truly valuable f/8 AF is. I have some friends who shoot a lot of air shows. Most of them use the 70-200 f/2.8 and/or 300 f/2.8 lenses, often with a 2x TC, which would put the aperture at f/5.6. All of them have numerous stories about the times they put on both a 2x and a 1.4x on their 300's, which would put aperture at f/8. All of them have also noted, on many occasions, how painfully, PAINFULLY slow AF is at f/8 on a 1D series body.

If AF at f/8 is really that bad...is it really all that important? How many people use and *need* f/8 AF to really make it worth Canon's while to "fix" the "lack" of it in the 1D X?

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2012, 09:50:56 PM »
This is deliciously funny.

Makes me think of those flaky religious cheerleaders/misleaders who proclaim the world will end on a particular day. The day after that day, of course, they revise their calculations -- and give the faithful a new date.

I'm sure when the rapture comes all we Canon faithful will have our pristine 1Dx and a bagful of the most perfect L glass ever assembled by the heavenly choirs.

For me, I can be serene in the security of my CHAP membership -- Canon Heavenly Assurance Program. Those of us in the program not only have an assured place in Heaven, but express check-in! Show any Canon camera and you're whisked right in with a big smile and a full parade wave!
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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2012, 09:55:58 PM »
@ distant.star - You know how when you pass through the gates into an amusement park, there are people there who snap your picture and give you a ticket to pick it up later at the photo booth?  What if those angels are using Nikon?   :P
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2012, 10:10:24 PM »
Lol all here will be sucking their thumbs, at the same time nikon buyers will be out with their brand new D4 on the 16th.

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Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2012, 10:36:31 PM »
Ask Art Morris, or others who shoot birds with feathers instead of metal wings.

Thanks for the reference to Art Morris. His work is FANTASTC, and his blog is full of goodies and wonderful knowledge about bird photography. It does appear that he uses the EF 800mm f/5.6 with a 1.4x TC a fair bit, and the shots with it are simply amazing...so I understand now why he might want AF at f/8.
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