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Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2012, 01:21:40 PM »
I do think the 22MP would be right on. I doubt the 61point AF though and think a 21 point would be more realistic and fine for almost everyone. I'm guessing the camera won't quite hit 6fps on 1 digic5 @22MP so i'm thinking just under 5fps would be more realistic and again, fine for most people.

I think it would be dumb to replace the 24-70 f/2.8 with a non IS version. Is anyone really complaining about that lens?
A new 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8 would be nice (Nikon has put out both recently). It really sucks that no one has a stabilized lens at f/2.8 with less than 70mm for full frame cameras. In a world of DSLR video especially, they really need to pump in some IS.  This is making me want a Sony.

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« Reply #135 on: February 03, 2012, 01:21:40 PM »

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« Reply #136 on: February 03, 2012, 01:23:12 PM »
Again, all I'm hoping for with the 5D3 is the specs recently listed here at CR + the native ISO of the 1D-X 100-51,200 (max 204,800). And I'll be putting in my order.

If the native ISO of the next 5D is ISO 51200, what does that look like in RAW. Too bad that there are still no 1Dx RAW samples available, and how usable will ISO 102400 be?
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« Reply #137 on: February 03, 2012, 01:28:55 PM »
It really sucks that no one has a stabilized lens at f/2.8 with less than 70mm for full frame cameras. In a world of DSLR video especially, they really need to pump in some IS.  This is making me want a Sony.

Except with video, you cannot really use the stabilizer because you can hear the humming in the audio unless you strip out the audio and use music or an external recording device...
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« Reply #138 on: February 03, 2012, 01:33:42 PM »
Numbers I was quoting were for last year, so more of a line in the sand and seeing where things fall

I found it interesting that the D4 basically went up greatly from rumored price from Thom Hogan back summer of last year, to the yes, you are correct, closer to the 6K range.

He was speculating on the D800 also being more of a 22MP, so if delivered is 36MP, I tend to like my numbers, or in fact, could again be low. 

So if the D700 sold in the low to mid $2K range, and the D800 is such a huge upgrade (3x sensor size, better ISO, etc) is only a few hundred more really rational or logical. 

Seriously.  B&Hs price recently on the D700 was $2700 and that is a 12 MP camera.  The newer 36MP version is only going to be $3000?

Sort of off topic since this is more related to the 5DX, 5DIII or what ever it will be in single or multiple versions, but everyone is expecting the official Nikon release in the next week, so I am just interested if say the D800 is say 36MP, but also is $3500 or upwards of $4K, does people view on Canon's pricing get re-adjusted as well.

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« Reply #139 on: February 03, 2012, 02:14:03 PM »
I would LOVE to be wrong, but how could this camera be real?  What differentiates it from the 1DX?  (ie. is there $4100 in difference?)

Not to be a hater, but I think this sounds more like a wish list... my wish list.. =)  IF it's true, I'll be ordering mine asap... if not than i'll go sulk in my room.

+1 on these.  It's a nice wish list.  Wishes don't often come true.  But Canon's goal is to make money, total profit is what matters, not profit per camera line.  This may represent a strategic shift - combine the 1-series lines to a single body to reduce R&D costs, put top technology in an 'affordable' camera that to the casual eye looks a LOT like the top of the line pro camera, which boosts sales of that 5-series model (a great price for a baby 1D X), and the unit sales of the 5-series more than makes up for lost sales on the 1D X.

If this is real, they are going to be very, very popular. After suffering with the banding and AF issues of various models this could be the one we have been waiting for.

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« Reply #140 on: February 03, 2012, 03:25:24 PM »
Not sure where you're getting your pricing information from Maui. The D4 already has a confirmed debut price of $6000 US and $6300 CAD.

The D800 is "rumoured" to be $3000 w/ AA and $3900 w/o AA. Which I think is too much. But in light of the damage done by the quake in Japan and flooding in Thailand...some of this added cost might be to recover some cost to rebuild. Nikon just got some insurance money. I think it was around 7 million (1st payment) but there is supposedly around 143 million dollars worth of damage.

Not sure if Canon headquarters or their factory took much damage. The cost of the 1D-X seems more or less "fair" for a flagship model. Though $2799.99 for the 5D3 is a slight increase over what I believe the debut price of the 5D2 was by a few hundred dollars. I was hoping for $2500 or less. But paying around $2800 is a lot better than paying Nikon prices for their D800 models IMHO.

Again, all I'm hoping for with the 5D3 is the specs recently listed here at CR + the native ISO of the 1D-X 100-51,200 (max 204,800). And I'll be putting in my order.

I think the 5D2 debuted at $2699 USD.

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« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2012, 04:15:56 PM »
I think the 5D2 debuted at $2699 USD.

My first 5D2 cost £2099 in 2009, when you still had to wait for stock to arrive!

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« Reply #141 on: February 03, 2012, 04:15:56 PM »

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« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2012, 04:42:22 PM »
Again, all I'm hoping for with the 5D3 is the specs recently listed here at CR + the native ISO of the 1D-X 100-51,200 (max 204,800). And I'll be putting in my order.

If the native ISO of the next 5D is ISO 51200, what does that look like in RAW. Too bad that there are still no 1Dx RAW samples available, and how usable will ISO 102400 be?

Hard to say. Maybe the people at Canon will be good enough to start leaking some official photos taken with the 5D3 at high ISO. :)

As for the pricing on the D4 @ $6000 US/$6300 CAD...that's confirmed. It's the price on shop websites. Which in time will of course drop...how long that will take? Will have to just wait and see.

D800 pricing? Rumours. Since it's not available for pre-order. Hasn't even been announced yet. But should be next week.

I think the asking price for the 2 versions of the D800 are ridiculous. It's more than a few hundred $. It's more like a $500-1400 increase over the D700!! :) Having said that...if the rumoured specs are spot on (from NR)...I'm not ordering one. I want a FF body with good native ISO range. Something the D800 doesn't have. Looks like a "studio camera" based on the specs. Something I'm not looking for. Which is why I'm putting my money on the 5D3 (assuming the latest rumoured specs are correct). If not...this is going to get expensive (but still worth it)...

And about the plausiblity of seeing the 1D-X's 61-pt AF in the 5D3...I think it's very possible. If not...then maybe an AF system based on the 7D's design but with more points/cross-pts. Maybe 21. 45...

FPS? I'd be happy with 5.
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« Reply #143 on: February 03, 2012, 06:40:15 PM »

As for the pricing on the D4 @ $6000 US/$6300 CAD...that's confirmed. It's the price on shop websites. Which in time will of course drop...how long that will take? Will have to just wait and see.


Not sure where you got the pricing but the D4 is still listed at $5,999 in Canada in my local store...
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« Reply #144 on: February 03, 2012, 07:32:08 PM »

As for the pricing on the D4 @ $6000 US/$6300 CAD...that's confirmed. It's the price on shop websites. Which in time will of course drop...how long that will take? Will have to just wait and see.



Not sure where you got the pricing but the D4 is still listed at $5,999 in Canada in my local store...


Looks like there is a bid of difference across the country.  http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03836/Nikon-D4-price.html

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« Reply #145 on: February 03, 2012, 07:32:34 PM »
Lets not forget also that there is a huge difference between the announced RRP and Street pricing.

Look at the C300. When i was first announced it was listed as $20,000 USD, then pre orders were listed as $15,999USD. Thats already a massive drop.
Once its been around for a few months we could see them selling for as low as $14,000USD.

The point being these prices we are seeing listed in rumours, we don't know if they are actual street price, RRP or the writer pulled the figure out of a unicorns ass.

Once the cameras are out there in peoples hands is when I'm going to start shopping around for the best price, until then ill just use these prices as a rough guide on how much my wallet is going to suffer.
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« Reply #146 on: February 03, 2012, 08:12:26 PM »

As for the pricing on the D4 @ $6000 US/$6300 CAD...that's confirmed. It's the price on shop websites. Which in time will of course drop...how long that will take? Will have to just wait and see.



Not sure where you got the pricing but the D4 is still listed at $5,999 in Canada in my local store...


Very interesting...Lozeau store in Montreal is advertizing them for 5999. but as AG mentionned there will likely be a difference between RRP and street price once they actually get some inventory...

Cant wait to see those charts for the 1DX!


Looks like there is a bid of difference across the country.  http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03836/Nikon-D4-price.html
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« Reply #147 on: February 03, 2012, 09:03:47 PM »
From my 3 main camera shops. Vistek (http://www.vistek.ca/marketing/procentre/nikon/slrcameras.aspx), Henry's (http://www.henrys.com/67447-NIKON-D4-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx) and Aden Camera (http://www.adencamera.com/product-overviewer.asp?ProdID=3897&Category=6). That's the current Toronto price. What is your local shop?

That's not right. Montrealers are already getting a $300 discount from the start. :) I wonder if my local stores will price match a store in Montreal. At least the 1D-X is the same in both cities. $6999.99

Ok back to the topic of this thread the 5D3 (or is it 5D-X? HEH!)...
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« Reply #148 on: February 03, 2012, 11:17:16 PM »

Cant wait to see those charts for the 1DX!


Agreed!

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« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2012, 03:10:58 AM »
No offense neuro, but there are very few amateurs splurging $6000-7000 on a camera body to take pics of kids and family, however there are a few. 

I have 2 series 1 and a 5D. I wont be getting a 1DX in the near future.

I am a non professional

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« Reply #149 on: February 04, 2012, 03:10:58 AM »