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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2017, 04:52:24 PM »
I currently take 11-22 and 55-200 for my hikings. I rarely use my 18-55. Looking at DPR gallery I can't see much of this new lens. I wish they had used a more photographic eye!
It is a good walk around range. Is it as sharp as 11-22 or at least sharper than 55-200?
I look for your head to head review Dustin.

My review is live.  Read it:  http://bit.ly/EFM18_150STM  Watch it:  http://bit.ly/18_150STM

It's actually a pretty good lens.
Thanks for your review of this lens. I read it the other day.
I am looking forward to buying it.
I'll probably get it with the M5; I currently have the M3 and the 18-55.
I was complaining on a trip out at Christmas, that the 18-55 doesn't have enough reach sometimes.
The 18-150 should totally banish that woe.


Thanks again!

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2017, 04:52:24 PM »

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2017, 10:21:52 AM »


I currently take 11-22 and 55-200 for my hikings. I rarely use my 18-55. Looking at DPR gallery I can't see much of this new lens. I wish they had used a more photographic eye!
It is a good walk around range. Is it as sharp as 11-22 or at least sharper than 55-200?
I look for your head to head review Dustin.

My review is live.  Read it:  http://bit.ly/EFM18_150STM  Watch it:  http://bit.ly/18_150STM

It's actually a pretty good lens.

Thanks for the good review.

How the focus speed and accuracy is compared between 55-200 and 18-150 when they are used on M5 body?
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2017, 10:28:01 AM »


I currently take 11-22 and 55-200 for my hikings. I rarely use my 18-55. Looking at DPR gallery I can't see much of this new lens. I wish they had used a more photographic eye!
It is a good walk around range. Is it as sharp as 11-22 or at least sharper than 55-200?
I look for your head to head review Dustin.

My review is live.  Read it:  http://bit.ly/EFM18_150STM  Watch it:  http://bit.ly/18_150STM

It's actually a pretty good lens.

Thanks for the good review.

How the focus speed and accuracy is compared between 55-200 and 18-150 when they are used on M5 body?

Focus speed is actually much better than the 55-200.  Much faster, more accurate.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2017, 02:53:25 PM »


I currently take 11-22 and 55-200 for my hikings. I rarely use my 18-55. Looking at DPR gallery I can't see much of this new lens. I wish they had used a more photographic eye!
It is a good walk around range. Is it as sharp as 11-22 or at least sharper than 55-200?
I look for your head to head review Dustin.

My review is live.  Read it:  http://bit.ly/EFM18_150STM  Watch it:  http://bit.ly/18_150STM

It's actually a pretty good lens.

Thanks for the good review.

How the focus speed and accuracy is compared between 55-200 and 18-150 when they are used on M5 body?

Focus speed is actually much better than the 55-200.  Much faster, more accurate.
Great news! Thanks.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2017, 02:29:19 AM »
UPDATE

Took it outside on a nice sunny day and shot with it for the first time in such conditions.

Throughout most of the range, I found it to be sharp in the center - interestingly enough, with a very noticeable drop-off in quality toward the edges (didn't see this before in my test indoor shots). Admit to being slightly disappointed here, especially given how solid the 11-22 and 18-55 were in this respect.

Found it to be soft at 150mm (at least at f/8 and larger). Still, the fact that I can have that level of reach  in an "everyday" lens is impressive...BIG advantage over the 55-200 here in many ways, allows for greater variety of shots.

I also noticed other optical flaws on occasion, like ghosting, lack of contrast, and fringing.

Is it a good lens? Yes, it has great range and will have a particular use for me. Given that I'm now used to very high quality from top lenses, it didn't blow my socks off. But it's good enough - files will just need a bit more work in post. But then again, that was the case with the 55-200 as well (although with this lens, I feel even more so esp. at/near 150mm).

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2017, 12:51:50 PM »
Thanks for all of the above comments.  I just got back from a quick trip and took the M3 (with EVF, 11-22, 18-55 and 22.  I found I was looking for more reach a whole lot and have been contemplating the 18-150 and waiting for some feedback.  Then, a refurb 55-200 shows up on CPW for a lot less than the 18-150.  I could not resist and it is on its way.  I've no doubt the 18-150 is a great idea but for me, I think I'll be happy with my M kit (until something "quicker" with reach come a long.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2017, 01:01:07 PM »
It's all about compromise - the 55-200 is faster and I think slightly sharper at around 150mm - so for sole telephoto coverage, that's the way to go...but there has been more than one occasion where I wished for something wider. The 18-150 does hold up well toward the wide end, which makes it a good choice as an "all-in-one" solution. But yes, it is pricey.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2017, 01:01:07 PM »

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2017, 05:27:03 PM »
With my full frame kit, I've gone the route of having top quality zooms (16-35 f/4, 24-70 f/2.8 II, 70-200 f/2.8 II) to cover 16-200mm.  (The new 16-35 f/2.8 III might be a better all around lens than my f/4 IS, but for my use (landscape) the f/4 is perfect - I don't need the more expensive f/2.8 lens)

With my EF-M kit the choices are not so clear.  There is no clear "best" zoom other than the 11-22 in its focal range.

The 15-45, 18-55, 18-150 and 55-200  all have their advantages and disadvantages. 

  • 15-45 - small size (130g), wide minimum focal length, build quality average, locks in retracted position (-)
  • 18-55 - medium size (210g) for EF-M, better build quality
  • 18-150 - large size (301g), excellent focal range, better build quality, quick/accurate AF (per Dustin Abbott)
  • 55-200 - med-large size (260g), good focal range and max range, faster max aperture through most of range, better build quality

Optically, I'm not sure there is a clear winner and loser here.  I've heard the 15-45 is soft compared with the other EF-M zooms, but my experience shows mine to be as sharp as the 18-55 I owned previously.  Certainly not up the the standards of my much more expensive L glass, but decently sharp.

I currently have the 15-45 and 55-200 zooms and 22/2 prime, which gives me everything buy UWA coverage, and I plan to pick up a 11-22 at some point.

While the all-in-one focal range of the 18-150 is tempting, I hate to give up 15mm on the wide end and 200 on the long end with my current 2 zoom kit.  I can fit my M5 and either 22/2 or 15-45 into a reasonably small Lowepro Adventura belt pack.  Using a single zoom really doesn't save that much space over a 2 lens kit.

Other than buying a 11-22 at some point, I don't plan to make any other EF-M lens changes until new options are available.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2017, 05:42:08 PM »
similar here.
In addition to my 5D3 + L zoom kit i got EOS m 1st gen + 11-22, 18-55, 55-200 and 22/2. Perfect. Fits into a small bag. When mountaineering i take camera + 22 or 18-55 in a small Lowepro Dashpoint 30 bag on my backpack front strap. Immediate access.

15-45 is optically subpar. 18-150 is tempting, but for the time being I'll stick with my setup. My copy of 18-55 is rather decent. :-) 


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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2017, 10:03:22 PM »
similar here.
In addition to my 5D3 + L zoom kit i got EOS m 1st gen + 11-22, 18-55, 55-200 and 22/2. Perfect. Fits into a small bag. When mountaineering i take camera + 22 or 18-55 in a small Lowepro Dashpoint 30 bag on my backpack front strap. Immediate access.

15-45 is optically subpar. 18-150 is tempting, but for the time being I'll stick with my setup. My copy of 18-55 is rather decent. :-)

Once I pick-up a 11-22 (I'm waiting for them to show up in the refurb sales), I may decide to part with my 15-45.  I think I can live with a "gap" between 22 and 55mm since I normally like to shoot wide and long anyway.  The 15-45 is a decent lens, but I find I don't use it that much.  Its strongest attribute is its size, which works against it a little due to the retracted "parked" position which forces you to go through an additional step to get the camera ready to shoot.  Dustin Abbott points out these drawbacks in his review.

I'd love to see Canon come out with a small 35mm or 85mm fast prime for the system, but they seem to be targeting their EF-M lenses toward the consumer market.  I need to become more familiar with manual focus with the M5 (works very well in my limited experience) before I would consider one of the 3rd party MF only lenses.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2017, 12:26:48 PM »
11-22 EF-M is a great lens. It is almost as sharp as the 20/2. Definitely, it is sharper than the 18-55. 

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2017, 10:55:35 AM »
To me, 11-22 is even sharper than 22. I usually take 11-22 and 55-200 for hiking. At dark conditions, I take 22, ef-50 stm and my Rokinon 8.5 fisheye.
This 18-150 range is tempting however my next investment will be in m5 or m6 body.
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2017, 11:15:49 AM »
Once I pick-up a 11-22 (I'm waiting for them to show up in the refurb sales), I may decide to part with my 15-45.  I think I can live with a "gap" between 22 and 55mm since I normally like to shoot wide and long anyway.  The 15-45 is a decent lens, but I find I don't use it that much.  Its strongest attribute is its size, which works against it a little due to the retracted "parked" position which forces you to go through an additional step to get the camera ready to shoot. 

Just to point out (though you're probably aware) that the 11-22 has the same 'problem' with the retracted position and needing to extend the lens before shooting. 
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2017, 11:57:42 AM »
In DPP, I'm finding that on average, I'm using Contrast +3.0, turning off Noise Reduction (or down significantly for higher ISO shots) and tweaking USM to 4/1/1 to squeeze the most out of 150mm f/6.3 shots. With the 55-200, at 200mm f/6.3 I made similar tweaks, maybe except left NR at default setting. Contrast tweaking was more in the +1 to +2 range, although occasionally it would be more than that. By comparison, with shots from the 11-22, for most shots I left at the default USM setting of 3/4/4 unless there was a focus issue (the lens is quite sharp out of the gate). Contrast, mostly untouched (occasional boosts of < 1 were made in instances).

Of course, this is just reflecting my personal taste. I tend to favor high amounts of detail in my finished product but I know many that don't care for that.

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Re: Any reviews or impressions of the EF-M 18-150mm yet?
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