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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2017, 10:17:51 PM »
you mean no second lens for my 12 y.o. son to take selfies and video chat? You have got to be kidding me? :)


Nope.

Incremental update for the next model :)

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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2017, 10:17:51 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2017, 09:16:47 AM »
Hi jeffa.
This is so funny.  ;D
You forgot, the first version would come without a shutter button, press the home and power button to capture the screen, the second version would get the shutter button but still not have it connected to the AF system, version 3 would have the AF linked to the shutter button but still not have..... pick your feature, you get the idea! ::)
Anyone remember the original iPhone and all the features it didn't have compared to pretty much every other phone?
Anyone remember what they gave you to entice you to upgrade?

Cheers, Graham.

Apple have invested heavily in its camera team and two former colleagues that are experts in their field were employed to push the envelope maybe Canon needs to look outside of Japan.

An Apple camera?

I can just imagine...

It'll have rounded corners :)

It'll require some version of iOS that when updated, bricks it forcing you to buy another one... if there's enough memory left to do the update :)

No SD or CF card, only one proprietary port. It'll be offered with 3 memory choices at an outrageous premium.

Non-removable battery.

Only one fixed lens option will be available.

It'll probably retail for more than a Canon 5D IV
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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2017, 03:57:08 AM »
Hi jeffa.
This is so funny.  ;D
You forgot, the first version would come without a shutter button, press the home and power button to capture the screen, the second version would get the shutter button but still not have it connected to the AF system, version 3 would have the AF linked to the shutter button but still not have..... pick your feature, you get the idea! ::)
Anyone remember the original iPhone and all the features it didn't have compared to pretty much every other phone?
Anyone remember what they gave you to entice you to upgrade?

Cheers, Graham.

Apple have invested heavily in its camera team and two former colleagues that are experts in their field were employed to push the envelope maybe Canon needs to look outside of Japan.

An Apple camera?

I can just imagine...

It'll have rounded corners :)

It'll require some version of iOS that when updated, bricks it forcing you to buy another one... if there's enough memory left to do the update :)

No SD or CF card, only one proprietary port. It'll be offered with 3 memory choices at an outrageous premium.

Non-removable battery.

Only one fixed lens option will be available.

It'll probably retail for more than a Canon 5D IV

And don't forget....
You won't be able to insert a SD card to expand its memory. This will leave you 8GB - or 16GB if you pay a fortune for the upgrade.
It will only let you process using Apple apps as enormous expense
When you plug the camera in to download your photos it will insist on telling you which software and which printers you are allowed to use and no matter how many times you think you disable this, it happens every time
When you die and bequeath your photo collection to your family it is then that you find out you don't actually own the photos but are merely renting them from Apple.

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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2017, 06:48:12 AM »
When you plug the camera in to download your photos it will insist on telling you which software and which printers you are allowed to use and no matter how many times you think you disable this, it happens every time

Plug it in?  Oh, pulllleeeeze.  It won't have anything so last century as a corded connection.  Bluetooth and WiFi only!
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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2017, 08:02:02 PM »
They lead a falling market, overall they too have seen falls in volume & profitability and innovation sometime radical is the only way to reverse a trend. As the trend shows currently DSLR sales are heading below peak SLR sales that's definitely not progress.

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 They just want good easy photos..

They could do all that (and more) but the reality is that the average-joe consumer is not going to buy a bigger, bulkier, and much-more-expensive camera when their iPhone does just fine.  I have zero problem that Canon is focusing on the enthusiast-professional market since those are the folks that will spend the money instead of trying to entice consumers that are tighter with their wallets.

This discussion reminded me of an article I saw a number of years ago looking at camera production over a period of 60 to 70 years: https://petapixel.com/2014/12/15/chart-shows-badly-digital-camera-sales-getting-hammered-smartphones/

There does seem to be some credibility in the argument that the growth in camera sales in the early 2000s was a spike.  The data in the article only does to 2014, but there is certainly a view that camera production could be falling back to the pre-2000 trend (give or take a couple of anomalies).
Aside from the fact that most people are not interested in cameras, those of us who really interested in cameras are possibly not replacing them as quickly anymore as we were in the early 2000s (the technology has matured).
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Re: Canon EOS System Celebrates 30th Anniversary
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2017, 08:02:02 PM »