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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2017, 06:46:55 PM »
I have the 24-70 II, 70-200 II and now the 85 1.4 Art. Is there a need for a 135 f2 IS?

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for you.  :D The 135L has coexisted well with 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8 lenses for 20 years now, so it would appear that people truly do value the sharpness and extra stop of the 135L.

But, in the era of the super-resolving FF lenses (cough: Sigma Art), it's possible someone grabs the 85 Art or (in Nikon land) a 105mm f/1.4 and opts out of a new 135mm f/2 lens.  So, of your original list, you may not see the upside of a 135 f/2 vs. your Art lens.

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I'm just trying to find a reason to spend sensibly. 24-70 & 70-200 2.8 II is very convenient for my wedding works. Adding a fast prime 85 1.4 Art is good for indoor shots/low light shots. I was hoping to add Tamron 115 1.4 (as my poor man 200 f2) but the 135 f2 is always one where so many gave it high praise but I can't find a place in my arsenal.

I think the 135 2 has quite similar characteristics to the 70-200 2.8 L IS (@ 200mm / 2.8) in terms of IQ, at least to the point where newly weds wouldn't notice. The zooming is probably worth having more than a prime, unless you really need, and probably want, a low light portrait lens. I would look no further than the 84 1.4 IS L for weddings.

The reason I love the 135 2 L is because it replaces my 70-200 2.8 IS L when traveling. Having IS would be incredibly useful.
Currently considering: 35 1.4 L II, 100-400 L IS II, and Tamron 85 1.8 VC. Desperately in need of a 135 2 L IS.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2017, 06:46:55 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2017, 06:55:28 PM »
I have the 24-70 II, 70-200 II and now the 85 1.4 Art. Is there a need for a 135 f2 IS?

Fixed that
for you.  :D The 135L has coexisted well with 24-70 and 70-200 f/2.8 lenses for 20 years now, so it would appear that people truly do value the sharpness and extra stop of the 135L.

But, in the era of the super-resolving FF lenses (cough: Sigma Art), it's possible someone grabs the 85 Art or (in Nikon land) a 105mm f/1.4 and opts out of a new 135mm f/2 lens.  So, of your original list, you may not see the upside of a 135 f/2 vs. your Art lens.

- A

I'm just trying to find a reason to spend sensibly. 24-70 & 70-200 2.8 II is very convenient for my wedding works. Adding a fast prime 85 1.4 Art is good for indoor shots/low light shots. I was hoping to add Tamron 115 1.4 (as my poor man 200 f2) but the 135 f2 is always one where so many gave it high praise but I can't find a place in my arsenal.

I think the 135 2 has quite similar characteristics to the 70-200 2.8 L IS (@ 200mm / 2.8) in terms of IQ, at least to the point where newly weds wouldn't notice. The zooming is probably worth having more than a prime, unless you really need, and probably want, a low light portrait lens. I would look no further than the 84 1.4 IS L for weddings.

The reason I love the 135 2 L is because it replaces my 70-200 2.8 IS L when traveling. Having IS would be incredibly useful.

Thanks for the advice. I think so too. 70-200 II 2.8 is too versatile for wedding works. I added the 85 1.4 Art for vacations when I dont want to bring 70-200, indoor portraits, low light portrait lens. It gives me a different look than 70-200 II 2.8 @ 200mm.

It looks like it's going to a great year for Canon with 2 refreshes of Canon's great lens. I hope Canon 6D II will good upgrade as well.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2017, 07:01:10 PM »
Not sure how they can improve on perfection.  This is my favorite lens.  If they can keep it around $1000-1200, I might just have to start saving (the 6DII will have to wait).  I hope that whatever they put inside the current one (magic gnomes?) ends up in the new one.
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2017, 07:01:14 PM »
That's crazy. And that's all happening when I thought I will cut on my GAS spending this year. The new 85, and now this... And maybe the 70-200 III and the 600 DO?
WHY CANON???  >:(

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2017, 07:03:49 PM »
Not sure how they can improve on perfection.  This is my favorite lens.  If they can keep it around $1000-1200, I might just have to start saving (the 6DII will have to wait).  I hope that whatever they put inside the current one (magic gnomes?) ends up in the new one.

The Zeiss 135 APO / Milvus 135 is a perfection, but no AF... If Canon matches this one - it will be a super duper perfection with AF and IS :)
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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2017, 07:11:18 PM »
Not sure how they can improve on perfection.  This is my favorite lens.  If they can keep it around $1000-1200, I might just have to start saving (the 6DII will have to wait).  I hope that whatever they put inside the current one (magic gnomes?) ends up in the new one.

The Zeiss 135 APO / Milvus 135 is a perfection, but no AF... If Canon matches this one - it will be a super duper perfection with AF and IS :)

+1 -- great example.  I've not shot these 135 lenses, but as much as folks rave about the 135L, see Dustin's reviews of other 135mm options.  The 135L can clearly be outresolved by some more modern offerings.

I see the 35L I vs. 35 Art --> 35L II as a good example.  All Canon has to do marry up modern optics to their AF and this will be a win.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2017, 07:13:50 PM »
I don't know why anyone would think it'll be less than $2k

If the 200 f2 IS is 6k, makes sense a 135 f2 IS would be more like 2k

I wish canon prioritized its lenses by necessity. I imagine 35 and 50mm lenses are the most common n popular. Canon needs a new 50 asap as theirs suck compared to the sigma and zeiss

I want a 50 1.2 or 1.4 IS!

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2017, 07:13:50 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2017, 07:20:06 PM »
The reason I love the 135 2 L is because it replaces my 70-200 2.8 IS L when traveling. Having IS would be incredibly useful.

That's actually why I pack the 100 f/2.8L IS Macro when I travel -- I would pack that instead of my large and heavy 70-200 f/2.8L IS II.  I recognize you don't get the same bokeh as either the 135L or 70-200 at the longer FLs, but you get a very serviceable longer prime for portraiture, you get the macro functionality, you get IS, etc. in a compact package.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2017, 07:51:31 PM »
What a brilliant idea to release such fast primes with stabilization...  that Canon already could have had when they released their 100/2.8 IS macro 9 years ago, and people started to shoot video like crazy 8 years ago.

Now today with cameras like the Olympus E-M1II, in body stabilization is already much better than any lens stabilization quality.  Since 2 years unstabilized Canon lenses already do have decent body stabiliation when using Sony cameras, and most likely will have Olympus/Pansonic kind of perfect stabilization once they release their new A7/A9 models, that also might keep up with most of the left 5D4/1DX2 advantages.

Canon is way too late on this, and even worse it might lead to the situation that Canon will be 10 years late to the body stabilization party as well because of a wrong strategy.  The 85/1.4 IS and 135/2 IS both might cost 2500 USD/EUR.  Makes more sense to invest that kind of money in other camera models, and keep the old unstabilized lenses.

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2017, 08:28:49 PM »
Count me in. Mine needs IS badly. It will be the king of low light video, night portraiture and low light frame grab.

The king is already the 200mm f2 IS. I can get 1/8th of a second handheld shots 😍
Yes, but Canon will probably have to revisit the 200mm f/2 IS L if the 135 gets IS and any substantial optical upgrade.


the 135 f2 looks like the 200 f2 ...a lot....
 
i try to say on the 200 f2......"i.s.  closer-focus and coatings  and  even body weight.... are due....."
saying..."i want the update...
used the current model...lovely...but it is due...."
but people get upset..


its just that we have new standards.. and that lovely lens could get a new boost.

i want one..
plus...
the 135, 85...in this post

do it.... canon......now






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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2017, 09:01:36 PM »
Why would I want this if I already have the 200 F2 IS?

Oh well... I guess this lens would work.  I think they are just going to give new coatings and add IS and to make the build a bit different to lower production costs.  This will be a huge seller for them and they want to maximize profits so this is about all they will do.

It'll be a good lens for sure... I may add it to my kid but between 85 1.4 Art and 200 F2 IS I'm covered....

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2017, 09:32:49 PM »
You just made my day - this is THE lens I most want from Canon  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Me too, because then I might be able to afford a used 135mm f/2L!

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2017, 10:54:34 PM »
Why would I want this if I already have the 200 F2 IS?

Um, because physics, gravity and such actually exist?

Perhaps you'd like a lens that is a fraction of the size and weight? 

Or not to look too conspicuous? 

Or to shoot handheld for a long periods of time comfortably?

Or to fit more lenses in your bag?

Or to shoot indoors?

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2017, 10:54:34 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2017, 11:40:19 PM »
I'm really excited about the 85mm IS so this rumor about is releasing before the 135mm IS gets announced has me on pins and needles!

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2017, 12:36:36 AM »
+1 -- great example.  I've not shot these 135 lenses, but as much as folks rave about the 135L, see Dustin's reviews of other 135mm options.  The 135L can clearly be outresolved by some more modern offerings.

Thank you Adam!

I also saw Dustin's review of the new Milvus 135 - that's what I expect from Canon now :)

All Canon has to do marry up modern optics to their AF and this will be a win.

Indeed!

Why would I want this if I already have the 200 F2 IS?

I hope it will be smaller / more portable than the 200/2 :) Compression (distance / framing) should be very close: http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/lensdistortion/

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Re: Canon EF 135mm f/2L IS Coming in 2017 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2017, 12:36:36 AM »