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Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:27:30 PM »
Wondering if anybody tried this on camera or handheld? Is it manageable? I can't also figure out if I need the $99 OCF ring to use with the OCF softbox (OCF + OCF)? Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 18, 2017, 11:26:54 PM by Jopa »

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Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:27:30 PM »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 06:34:51 PM »
Using on camera on handheld is going to depend on what camera body + lens combo you use due to weight concerns.


You do need the OCF speed ring to use OCF soft boxes.
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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 06:43:39 PM »
Using on camera on handheld is going to depend on what camera body + lens combo you use due to weight concerns.


You do need the OCF speed ring to use OCF soft boxes.

Thank you Jon! Does it mean for the regular (large) Profoto mount soft boxes I won't need anything special to be mounted on a B2?
I'm thinking about getting a ProMediaGear bracket for on-camera, and a pistol grip / small OCF softbox for handheld usage. I'm not much concerned about weight, but about chunkiness & wires. Hope I won't look too crazy with all this stuff on me :)

[Edit] this is just crazy: http://www.promediagear.com/BBX-Double-Boomerang-Bracket-System_p_224.html
« Last Edit: January 10, 2017, 07:00:36 PM by Jopa »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2017, 06:30:58 PM »
That is crazy awesome.

For the RFI series of Softboxes, you need the regular profoto speed rings, which are much larger and heavier and not good for handheld use.


I think the ProMediaGear boomerang with an OCF Speedring + soft box  or OCF Beauty dish is a great combo.
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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2017, 03:54:09 AM »
Thank you Jon - very helpful. Couldn't figure this out reading Profoto website.
Seems like a couple of my B1s is about to get a B2 baby... :)

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2017, 07:46:27 AM »
I use similar setup for events run and gun gigs.
80cm Octa is very uncomfortable on top of the promediagear boomerang. way too bulky and literary sits on top of your lens...
I obtained 40x40cm Godox softbox and Godox S-type Bowens bracket with grip handle that sits on top of the boomerang.
I use Godox AD360C II as a light source. I tried 60x60cm softbox but you can see it as you framing for the shot with wide lenses when shooting in landscape.
i found that 40x40cm softbox is still managable even when shooting busy venues. mind you: be prepared for funny looks as you move around the dance floor or reception :)
« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 01:40:47 AM by Alex_M »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2017, 01:30:20 PM »
I use similar setup for events run and gun gigs.
80cm Octa is very uncomfortable on top of the promediagear boomerang. way too bulky and literary sits on top of your lens...
I obtained 40x40cm Godox softbox and Godox S-type Bowens bracket with grip handle that sits on top of the boomerang.
I use Godox AD360C II as a light source. I tried 60x60cm softbox but you can see it as you framing for the shot with wide lenses when shooting in landscape.
i found that 40x40cm softbox is still managable even when shooting busy venues. mind you: be prepared for funny looks as you move around the dance floor or reception :)

Alex, it's good to hear some other people are also doing this! I thought I might be just a crazy person trying to figure out a portable one man band lighting :)
Profoto sells a 60 cm octabox, so based on what you said I will go with that one. I feel a B2 price is a pure rip off compared to the AD360, but I already have a few of their larger strobes, and I'll probably stick with Profoto for the sake of compatibility.


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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2017, 09:12:25 PM »
Jopa,
Yes, sounds like a plan. Just be careful about the size and verify that softbox does not get in the way when shooting with wider lenses. I have attached couple of snapshots of my setup with 40x40cm Godox softbox and it is a tight fit at this size already. 60cm would be a no go for me as I will see its lower edge in the frame. I am also not looking forward to manoeuvring though the crowd with such a large item. You gonna get people upset for being disturbed "for nothing".
« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 01:37:19 AM by Alex_M »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2017, 10:04:01 PM »
Using on camera on handheld is going to depend on what camera body + lens combo you use due to weight concerns.


You do need the OCF speed ring to use OCF soft boxes.

Thank you Jon! Does it mean for the regular (large) Profoto mount soft boxes I won't need anything special to be mounted on a B2?
I'm thinking about getting a ProMediaGear bracket for on-camera, and a pistol grip / small OCF softbox for handheld usage. I'm not much concerned about weight, but about chunkiness & wires. Hope I won't look too crazy with all this stuff on me :)

[Edit] this is just crazy: http://www.promediagear.com/BBX-Double-Boomerang-Bracket-System_p_224.html


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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2017, 01:29:05 AM »
call me cheap:)

1. Godox AD360c-II (360 W/S !) + Godox PB960 battery pack combo: A$600.00
2. Godox X1T-C wireless trigger (HSS, E-TTL II) - A$50.00
3. Promediagear Boomerang - A$250.00
4. Godox pistol grip S-Type bracket  + 40x40cm softbox (square) combo- A$45.00

total: A$945.00 - thats about US$700 ??

the great thing about the Godox pistol grip bracket is that it can be removed in about 10 seconds from the Boomerang flash bracket with softbox and flash unit along and handed over to anyone who is happy to hold the light while you are shooting or even be attached to boom pole. lots of options there for an event shooter.


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« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 01:42:26 AM by Alex_M »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2017, 11:03:13 AM »
Very impressive Alex, crazy impressive! :)

The pistol grip is awesome, I see it also adds some space between the camera and the softbox. I was looking for a stud adapter for the boomerang http://www.promediagear.com/5-Tall-58-Light-Stud-Adapter-for-Profoto-B1-B2-Broncolor-Elichrom-Standard-Lightstand-Mount_p_223.html, but the grip is even better idea!

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2017, 11:28:37 AM »
call me cheap:)

1. Godox AD360c-II (360 W/S !) + Godox PB960 battery pack combo: A$600.00
2. Godox X1T-C wireless trigger (HSS, E-TTL II) - A$50.00
3. Promediagear Boomerang - A$250.00
4. Godox pistol grip S-Type bracket  + 40x40cm softbox (square) combo- A$45.00

total: A$945.00 - thats about US$700 ??

the great thing about the Godox pistol grip bracket is that it can be removed in about 10 seconds from the Boomerang flash bracket with softbox and flash unit along and handed over to anyone who is happy to hold the light while you are shooting or even be attached to boom pole. lots of options there for an event shooter.


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The guy on the picture is more expensive. The Profoto B2 dual kit is $2700, the softboxes are $150 and $100 (softgrid), according to Jon you you also need 2 x $100 OCF speedrings, the Profoto Air remote is ~$400, and the dual bracket is 600. So the guy carries about $4150 of lighting equipment. With just one light it will be ~$2900. 4 times of Godox price - crazy.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2017, 11:33:46 AM by Jopa »

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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2017, 01:58:09 AM »
Alex, how do you like the standard (right) Boomerang? I played with it a day and realized I need a left-sided version - BBXL. If the handle is on the right, I can't give the system enough support while adjusting the focus points or some other settings with my right hand. Most likely it won't be as convenient to shoot in the portrait orientation though, but I think the BBXL still worth it. Ideally it would be nice if the manufacturer added a 180 deg pivot point at the bottom mount, so the base could be switched from right to left.

P.S. got the Profoto OCF Beauty Dish, 2' white. Comes with a diffuser, so it can be converted to a BD / softbox hybrid. The light looks really like a mix of both. Good quality of the reflector material, but the rods quality could be better: cheap steel, easy to bend (permanently). Fiberglass would be lighter and probably same price. Profoto says the BD is collapsible, but that's a joke. It can be disassembled, but not collapsed like the SMDV boxes. On camera it allows to get decent results shooting close, off camera it's much better though :)

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2017, 06:36:05 PM »
After a few weeks playing the BBXL I'm happy I did the right choice. It's a bit clunky, but with some practice it's very manageable. The left side handle helps a lot.


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Re: Profoto B2 To Go Kit
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 06:39:24 PM »
...and of course an example: on-camera flash + 2' modifier!

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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2017, 06:39:24 PM »