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Jack Douglas

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2017, 02:12:28 AM »
Funny, when I pick up the 1DX2 and 400 DO II in its pack bag I can't believe how heavy it is. 

When I walk around with it cross slung over my shoulder with its large Jobu mount to grasp, it doesn't phase me, even on 4-5 hour hikes.  My strap is short and I tension against it shooting and I balance the weight when walking about 50-50, that is, holding the unit by the Jobu vs. letting it hang from my shoulder with hand on the Jobu, that faces up.  It tucks into the crotch of my arm when pulling into the Jobu mount. Without the Jobu I wouldn't be nearly as happy. 

Of course I would prefer less weight but the camera grip is substantial and that's a big plus with big lenses.  The 6D felt pretty awkward after shooting with the 1DX2 .  Now, for tourist type shots with a wider lens I can't really say I'd prefer the 1DX2, it's just too bulky and heavy.

So far, as a lighter build, 140 lb. 68 year old, no complaints handling the gear but don't get me wrong ... I know the day will come. :(

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2017, 02:12:28 AM »

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2017, 02:43:38 AM »
This thread feels like one big confirmation that I did the right thing deciding to use the 1100D instead of the 5D2 for birding.

The 400f5.6 plus a small Rebel are a perfect match.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 03:04:40 AM »
Everyone has different desires and expectations that come with a cost.  I fully understand those who don't want the extra hassle/cost.  The cost will be dollars in pretty much all situations and weight if we're talking longer lenses. 

Some are shooting with 600 F4, which I have no interest in doing, but having decent 800mm F8 for birding/wildlife has certainly pushed the fun factor upward for me in spite of the weight, which I consider hand-holdable manageable.  When a photo I couldn't get before becomes a reality all the negatives just evaporate and I'm thrilled and that's happening a lot.  It's all about fun for me and if it isn't fun then of course I'll abandon it.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 10:13:59 AM »
My well-loved 400 f/5.6L and an APS-C body (60D formerly, now 7D2) fits reasonably well on a Cotton Carrier vest, allowing me to use hiking poles or an extended monopod as single hiking pole on steeper or muddier sections of a hike. Any longer than 10" lens, I would be having trouble walking due to lens hitting legs (I am short-waisted). It is a fun lens to use, particularly if you like to hand-hold and shoot birds in flight. It did a commendable job for the eclipse, too. The lens/body balance is good when using a consumer body as I do. I imagine that the Big Whites probably handle better on the 1D series bodies, both for balance and for speed of focus (more grams of glass to push around, needing more voltage from battery than provided by LP-E6).

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 10:31:46 AM »
Olympus marketing ploy... DSLR Arm:  https://youtu.be/xNo5H1cK_gQ
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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2017, 11:19:28 AM »
My well-loved 400 f/5.6L and an APS-C body (60D formerly, now 7D2) fits reasonably well on a Cotton Carrier vest, allowing me to use hiking poles or an extended monopod as single hiking pole on steeper or muddier sections of a hike. Any longer than 10" lens, I would be having trouble walking due to lens hitting legs (I am short-waisted). It is a fun lens to use, particularly if you like to hand-hold and shoot birds in flight. It did a commendable job for the eclipse, too. The lens/body balance is good when using a consumer body as I do. I imagine that the Big Whites probably handle better on the 1D series bodies, both for balance and for speed of focus (more grams of glass to push around, needing more voltage from battery than provided by LP-E6).

Everything I've ever read/heard about that 400 is positive and it's not a new lens either.  It is true that there is a balance factor that matters, not just weight but a big lens and big camera certainly is (too) heavy.

Funny, it just registered; I'm about 5'9 before shrinking, with 29 inch pant leg so that means my upper body is longer and obviously that's helping me since I don't have the issue you raise.  However, I keep my strap as short as possible for tension when I'm shooting.  I never hang a camera "around" my neck.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2017, 04:42:05 PM »
A sad reality for those of us getting up in years or those who have had injuries.  Giving up is not nice so work arounds such as lighter gear is very important assuming technique can't be modified.  I have my fingers crossed for now.

I like to hike, while my shooting buddy, now deceased, couldn't walk 100 yards.  It made me ever so thankful I still have my legs.  For those with issues, my sympathies and encouragement to keep trying.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 05:44:25 PM »
I love 1d series cameras, as they have amazingly comfortable grip. So, even though it's heavier than 5d series, the handling is very comfortable and easy.
Me too. Just come back from a CPS landscape event in the New Forest (UK) and had my 1DX2 plus a loaner 5DIV to use. No complaints about the 5 series but the 1D just balances perfectly on the grip.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 06:55:57 PM »
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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 07:49:03 PM »
Olympus marketing ploy... DSLR Arm:  https://youtu.be/xNo5H1cK_gQ

That is great!  ;D

Looks like I'd barely be able to hang onto it with a 600 lens or are the lenses that small too? :)

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2017, 07:08:13 PM »
Hi canon1dxman.
I was there too, evening (what sunset?) shoot, borrowed the 17mm TS-E, had great fun trying to get my head around that beast, started to get the hang of it towards the end of the day.
Met some interesting people there too.
I have never done an event like this before and I thought it was excellent, lectures, transport to and from shooting locations, food and loan gear all laid on for free.

Cheers, Graham.

Just come back from a CPS landscape event in the New Forest (UK) and had my 1DX2 plus a loaner 5DIV to use. No complaints about the 5 series but the 1D just balances perfectly on the grip.
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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2017, 07:09:36 PM »
Wow, how do I sign up?   :)

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2017, 08:41:59 PM »
Hi Jack.
Accrue enough gear points (European route in to CPS) be amongst the first to respond yes to the mass email campaign asking if you would like to attend! :)

Cheers, Graham.

Wow, how do I sign up?   :)

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2017, 09:08:33 PM »
Hi Jack.
Accrue enough gear points (European route in to CPS) be amongst the first to respond yes to the mass email campaign asking if you would like to attend! :)

Cheers, Graham.

Wow, how do I sign up?   :)

Jack

And then I have to fly to England? :o  ;)

However, my son is now studying in London, so ....  dream on.

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Re: New 1D series blew out my arm!
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2017, 11:22:10 PM »
England is a bit smaller than USA or Canada. CPS America would have a hard time putting on an event where you could attend. Probably makes it nicer for CPS England people.
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