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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2012, 10:30:44 AM »
Where is the mounting of the lenshood?

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2012, 10:31:07 AM »
If that's it, and it doesn't come with IS at that price, I'm very happy that I just bought the current version  :P

in my opinion, the current version leaves a lot to desire. In particular weak 2.8 sharpness and mediocre mid contrast killed it for me (had one, sold it). If they fix it and we see a similar improvement as the 70-200 did, I'm happy :)

Glad they didn't incorporate IS, for me at least. I like it on longer lenses, but I don't think I would use it a lot on this lens, and I'd still pay for it - in hard currency upon purchasing, and after a long day of shooting, in neck and shoulders since it all just adds up to the weight ;)

Agreed. Despite the steep price, i'd certainly pay that much to actually have great 2.8 and improved image quality across the frame (and hopefully without the field curvature). if they can improve IQ similar to the 70-200mm II, i won't ever need another canon lens. Perhaps i just 3 bad versions over the years but i won't buy another normal focal length zoom until they step up their IQ.


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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2012, 10:32:17 AM »
All I know is there's another bump at the top of the image on the barrel. Zoom lock would be highly unusual for this type of lens. No lens creep on L zooms that I know of.

I don't think there is something like a second switch. If there is, in that position, it would be a zoom lock switch. Nothing IS related for sure.


I am sure the second switch is a lock. My 70-300L has one. Why not the 24-70?
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2012, 10:34:07 AM »
Where is the mounting of the lenshood?


On the front of the lens. Like with the 24-105
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2012, 10:37:42 AM »
If that's it, and it doesn't come with IS at that price, I'm very happy that I just bought the current version  :P

in my opinion, the current version leaves a lot to desire. In particular weak 2.8 sharpness and mediocre mid contrast killed it for me (had one, sold it). If they fix it and we see a similar improvement as the 70-200 did, I'm happy :)

Glad they didn't incorporate IS, for me at least. I like it on longer lenses, but I don't think I would use it a lot on this lens, and I'd still pay for it - in hard currency upon purchasing, and after a long day of shooting, in neck and shoulders since it all just adds up to the weight ;)

Agreed. Despite the steep price, i'd certainly pay that much to actually have great 2.8 and improved image quality across the frame (and hopefully without the field curvature). if they can improve IQ similar to the 70-200mm II, i won't ever need another canon lens. Perhaps i just 3 bad versions over the years but i won't buy another normal focal length zoom until they step up their IQ.
I don't have any issues with sharpness at 2.8 but I could surely use IS for low light on this zoom range. Now I'm forced to use my 70-200 most of the time in that kind of situations...

Also, I find it a bit disturbing that they moved the mounting of the lens hood to the front which moves with the lens while zooming....the current version is fixed, so I predict worse weather sealing after some time of use...
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2012, 10:47:13 AM »
Also, I find it a bit disturbing that they moved the mounting of the lens hood to the front which moves with the lens while zooming....the current version is fixed, so I predict worse weather sealing after some time of use...


...weathersealing.... good point.
I was hoping they would release the 24-70 with internal zoom like the 70-200 models. But unfortunately not.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2012, 10:53:13 AM »
if I'm not mistaken, this Image shows the lens at 24mm without being extended-- unlike the current model. does that mean its internal zoom, or extending at 70 instead?

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2012, 10:55:15 AM »
In my opinion, they've really cheapened the design.  The V1 lens hood design was actually innovative and useful, provided good protection, as well as ideal light blockage for the given focal length on the reverse-zoom.  The omission of IS, cheap hood attachment, and external zooming will hopefully be overshadowed by the fact that it must surely be capable of shooting of rainbows out of the front element.  It needs to be THAT good in order to sell.  Surely it has all the latest coatings as well.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2012, 10:55:39 AM »

Also, I find it a bit disturbing that they moved the mounting of the lens hood to the front which moves with the lens while zooming....the current version is fixed, so I predict worse weather sealing after some time of use...

Well, this one is shortest at 24mm instead of 70mm like the old version so the old hood design would not work. If they changed to a normal zoom motion to increase the optical quality I don't think we should complain about the hood design. The old design was great but the IQ of the old version @ f2.8 is far from outstanding. I'd trade sharpness wide open for a static hood design any day.

Obviously we have no idea why this lens has normal zoom function but I think we can assume there is a reason for it.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2012, 10:59:55 AM »

Also, I find it a bit disturbing that they moved the mounting of the lens hood to the front which moves with the lens while zooming....the current version is fixed, so I predict worse weather sealing after some time of use...

Well, this one is shortest at 24mm instead of 70mm like the old version so the old hood design would not work. If they changed to a normal zoom motion to increase the optical quality I don't think we should complain about the hood design. The old design was great but the IQ of the old version @ f2.8 is far from outstanding. I'd trade sharpness wide open for a static hood design any day.

Obviously we have no idea why this lens has normal zoom function but I think we can assume there is a reason for it.
Correct, it wouldn't. But I really don't have problems with sharpness at f/2.8   ???
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2012, 11:02:43 AM »
In my opinion, they've really cheapened the design.  The V1 lens hood design was actually innovative and useful, provided good protection, as well as ideal light blockage for the given focal length on the reverse-zoom.  The omission of IS, cheap hood attachment, and external zooming will hopefully be overshadowed by the fact that it must surely be capable of shooting of rainbows out of the front element.  It needs to be THAT good in order to sell.  Surely it has all the latest coatings as well.
My point exactly  ;D
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2012, 11:03:07 AM »
If Canon can put IS in the excellent 17-55f/2.8 (and 24-105f/4) there is no reason they can't or shouldn't put it in a new 24-70f/2.8. If they don't it will be a huge marketing mistake. I sold my 24-70 because it didn't have IS and I was not really happy with the IQ. I kept the 24-105 because of the IS but I find (with my copies at least) the 17-55 IS is sharper.

The existing 24-70f/2.8 didn't need a focus limiter switch or a lock to prevent lens creep. Besides I am hoping a new 24-70f/2.8 will be internal focus (no barrel extension). So the if there is a second switch it must be for IS.

So here's to hoping there will be a 24-70 (or 105) f/2.8 IS, internal focus with center and corner IQ as good as the 70-200f/2.8 II IS   

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2012, 11:05:17 AM »
If Canon can put IS in the excellent 17-55f/2.8 (and 24-105f/4) there is no reason they can't or shouldn't put it in a new 24-70f/2.8. If they don't it will be a huge marketing mistake. I sold my 24-70 because it didn't have IS and I was not really happy with the IQ. I kept the 24-105 because of the IS but I find (with my copies at least) the 17-55 IS is sharper.

The existing 24-70f/2.8 didn't need a focus limiter switch or a lock to prevent lens creep. Besides I am hoping a new 24-70f/2.8 will be internal focus (no barrel extension). So the if there is a second switch it must be for IS.

So here's to hoping there will be a 24-70 (or 105) f/2.8 IS, internal focus with center and corner IQ as good as the 70-200f/2.8 II IS
Correct. Why a 17-55 for the crop with IS and a 24-70 for FF without IS  :-\ doesn't make sense imho. If there's a 24-70 f/2.8 with IS coming out and internal focus, I'm ordering one right away  ;D
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2012, 11:05:42 AM »
The Tamron with image stabilization look more interesting I think. The Canon will more than likely have better image quality, but when I need resolution (i e tripod-mounted photography) I go for primes anyway in this focal length range. This would for me be an all-around lens for hand-held causal shooting and as such image stabilization is more valuable than high resolving power and other optical qualities (as long as they don't suck too bad).
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2012, 11:07:56 AM »

Also, I find it a bit disturbing that they moved the mounting of the lens hood to the front which moves with the lens while zooming....the current version is fixed, so I predict worse weather sealing after some time of use...

Well, this one is shortest at 24mm instead of 70mm like the old version so the old hood design would not work. If they changed to a normal zoom motion to increase the optical quality I don't think we should complain about the hood design. The old design was great but the IQ of the old version @ f2.8 is far from outstanding. I'd trade sharpness wide open for a static hood design any day.

Obviously we have no idea why this lens has normal zoom function but I think we can assume there is a reason for it.
Correct, it wouldn't. But I really don't have problems with sharpness at f/2.8   ???

Fair enough, but a lot of people do have a problem with it. Me included.

The IQ is perfectly ok. But it's nothing to write home about and I don't think it's any better than a Non-L lens.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
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