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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #360 on: July 08, 2013, 07:46:05 PM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

Not sure I understand what makes a lens boring...  You admitted the 24-70 2.8 II is very sharp.  It has excellent bokeh and color rendition.  It's excellent mechanically.  About the only things most people don't like about it are the price and lack of IS.  What specifically don't you like about it?
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #360 on: July 08, 2013, 07:46:05 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #361 on: July 08, 2013, 07:54:01 PM »
One of our cars is a Subaru. It's not glamorous, in fact, as cars go, it's 'boring'.  But...it gets where we need it to go, through the worst New England has to offer.  Deep puddles after a torrential thunderstorm?  I've sluiced through them at 35 mph, sending sprays of water 20' in the air...no hydroplaning, no mushy steering, just drove through.  Snowdrift in the driveway higher than the hood of the car, and the plow service hasn't come yet?  Just drove through it, and out onto the 10" of snow on the road, then kept going to my destination. Boring...but it gets the job done.

If the 24-70/2.8L II is 'boring' like that, it's fine by me...   :D
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #362 on: July 08, 2013, 09:16:04 PM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.
Very interesting!
Maybe every lens bores you! Or maybe just zoom lenses.

In the latter case may I suggest a therapy cocktail consisting of some of the following lenses:

14L II, 17TSE, 24TSE II, 35 1.4L, 85 1.2L II, 135L

If your boredom is still not cured I suggest a last step: a 500mm f/4L IS II.

Now if even then you feel bored then the solution is to pick ... another hobby

P.S Make sure you use the lenses twice a day (Use before or after breakfast/lunch/dinner is irrelevant)

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #363 on: July 09, 2013, 08:00:30 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

I actually understand your statement. At 2.8 it a workhorse with outstanding IQ, but limiting on creative stuff. I have the same relation to my 24-105, and have more fun lurking around with my 135/2 or 50/1.4 or my 35/1.4.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #364 on: July 09, 2013, 08:57:55 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

I actually understand your statement. At 2.8 it a workhorse with outstanding IQ, but limiting on creative stuff. I have the same relation to my 24-105, and have more fun lurking around with my 135/2 or 50/1.4 or my 35/1.4.

What happens if you shoot something interesting with it? Is it still boring?
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #365 on: July 09, 2013, 09:46:18 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

Not sure I understand what makes a lens boring...  You admitted the 24-70 2.8 II is very sharp.  It has excellent bokeh and color rendition.  It's excellent mechanically.  About the only things most people don't like about it are the price and lack of IS.  What specifically don't you like about it?

The look of the Pictures....for me there is no wow-Feeling. When i look at the Pictures, that came out of my 24 1.4, my 85 1.2 or my 200 2.0, i have the wow-Feeling. I know these are Primes and on the other hand there is a Zoom-lens....maybe beside the 70-200 is II the best Zoom-Lens on the market, but i don't like it. The 70-200 is great  :)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #366 on: July 09, 2013, 09:49:40 AM »
what specifically did you find boring about the 24-70 2?

TS lenses aside, could you suggest an exciting dslr lens to look up?

Sure...24 1.4 and the 200 2.0
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #366 on: July 09, 2013, 09:49:40 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #367 on: July 09, 2013, 09:57:45 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.
Very interesting!
Maybe every lens bores you! Or maybe just zoom lenses.

In the latter case may I suggest a therapy cocktail consisting of some of the following lenses:

14L II, 17TSE, 24TSE II, 35 1.4L, 85 1.2L II, 135L

If your boredom is still not cured I suggest a last step: a 500mm f/4L IS II.

Now if even then you feel bored then the solution is to pick ... another hobby

P.S Make sure you use the lenses twice a day (Use before or after breakfast/lunch/dinner is irrelevant)


 ;)....o.k., truth be told :"i don't like zoom lenses"...except the 16-35 and the 70-200  ;D
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #368 on: July 09, 2013, 09:59:22 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

I actually understand your statement. At 2.8 it a workhorse with outstanding IQ, but limiting on creative stuff. I have the same relation to my 24-105, and have more fun lurking around with my 135/2 or 50/1.4 or my 35/1.4.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #369 on: July 09, 2013, 10:00:38 AM »
I bought the new 24-70 two times....the first time i used it and said to myself....hell this lens is boring. So i sold it. Than i bought it a second time to give it another try. What should i say...it was still boring. I mean...this Lens is sharp like a knife...but for me it has a boring look. So i sold it again. I rarly use Zoom-lenses and the 24-70 has not enough reach...so i bought the 24-105. this Lens is also boring  ;) but has a better Zoom range.

I actually understand your statement. At 2.8 it a workhorse with outstanding IQ, but limiting on creative stuff. I have the same relation to my 24-105, and have more fun lurking around with my 135/2 or 50/1.4 or my 35/1.4.

What happens if you shoot something interesting with it? Is it still boring?

The Lens ?.....yes it is  ;)
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #370 on: July 09, 2013, 10:12:31 AM »
So the only way to be creative is shoot wider than 2.8?  Hmm, interesting.
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #371 on: July 09, 2013, 10:26:03 AM »
So the only way to be creative is shoot wider than 2.8?  Hmm, interesting.

That's not the point. In the range from 24-85mm i like to shoot with apertures from 1.2/1.4 to 2.0. But that's just me. I'm not speeking for everyone else  :).
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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #372 on: July 09, 2013, 11:24:48 AM »
So the only way to be creative is shoot wider than 2.8?  Hmm, interesting.

That's not the point. In the range from 24-85mm i like to shoot with apertures from 1.2/1.4 to 2.0. But that's just me. I'm not speeking for everyone else  :).

If all your shots are of shallow dof stuff and offer little much else in variety - isn't that boring, to some people?? A lens is a creative tool, it is our job as photographers to capture interesting subject matter with it. F/2.8 is only a limit to your own imagination. If you can't create something visually appealing with that lens I think you might want to rethink your game.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #372 on: July 09, 2013, 11:24:48 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #373 on: July 09, 2013, 01:20:24 PM »
I have to throw out the "horses for courses" line.  I have the 16-35 II, 24-70 II, and 70-200 II, but I also have the 24 1.4 II, 50 1.2, 85 1.2 II, and 135.  I LOVE my primes and when I'm just walking around or shooting portraits, they are what I use.  When I'm shooting commercial work or carrying my gear on my back for long distances, I take the zooms.  There are plenty of situations where shallow DOF isn't needed or desired and many times when you can't "zoom with your feet" because you are stuck in one place and can't get closer or further back -- or you get eaten -- see shot below of a 10'+ alligator using the original 24-70 at, you guessed it 70mm, from around 20ft away.  If I'd had my 24 or 50 on, I wouldn't have been able to get close enough and I wanted good DOF for this shot.

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #374 on: July 09, 2013, 04:36:40 PM »
There are plenty of situations where shallow DOF isn't needed or desired and many times when you can't "zoom with your feet" because you are stuck in one place and can't get closer or further back -- or you get eaten -- see shot below of a 10'+ alligator using the original 24-70 at, you guessed it 70mm, from around 20ft away.  If I'd had my 24 or 50 on, I wouldn't have been able to get close enough and I wanted good DOF for this shot.

Fun shot!  But if you were at 20' to that monster, you're a whole lot braver (or is it more foolish?   ;) ) than I. 

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Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« Reply #374 on: July 09, 2013, 04:36:40 PM »