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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2012, 03:14:57 PM »
Give me a Sigma OS version! Pretty please :)

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2012, 05:01:07 AM »
Give me a Sigma OS version! Pretty please :)
Ditto I've been burnt by tamron once I dont think i could do it again but sigmas new lenses are really stepping up
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
when this lens will be available, I hope to find a completed test which will compare theses standard zooms
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM II
- Tamron 24-70 L SP 2.8 VC
- Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM


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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2012, 08:02:34 AM »
It has an Aussie street pprice and looks to maybe be available.
http://www.digidirect.com.au/camera_lenses/tamron/di_lenses/tamron_sp_24-70mm_f28_di_vc_usd_lens_-_canon
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2012, 09:13:34 AM »
IS on a zoom that maxes at 70mm - shake may disappear but motion blur wont ...
... and motion blur can be a good thing if it's intentional.  If fact it opens up a world of possibilities.
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My opinion:
* IS is always useful, in any lens
* IS is NOT big and heavy see for example the EF 70/200/4 L IS vs. non-IS - same size, just 55grams more weight (on a 760g telezoom)
* IS  does NOT cost optical performance - again see 70-200/4L IS optically superior to the non-IS version
* IS does not add a lot to manufacturing costs, even though Canon massively overcharges for the feature. See Tamron and Sigma lenses with optical stabilization
* IS should be standard in all new lenses coming from one of the 2 camera manufacturers that chose not to offer in-body stabilization (Ca/Ni)

I do look forward to seeing reviews of the new Tamron 24-70 VC and to the price of the lens.
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2012, 09:54:05 AM »
Really interested in this lens. A girl I've sort of been dating does a lot of birthday parties in hideous, hideous light. She isn't very strong and a 5D2 + 24-70 + 580EX II is actually a lot for her to handle for a couple of hours. I know that for all of us he-men, slinging that around is nothing, but when you don't have a lot of strength, camera shake becomes a problem.

So... I just don't get why anyone would be against IS. I really don't. Maybe YOU don't need it, but there is a lot of insinuation that you must be some kind of crappy photographer to want it. Sorry, but my girl isn't a crappy photographer; in fact, she's a fantastic photographer. She just has a model's build and she could use a little IS in low light to keep from having to throw out a lot of blurry photos.

Can't wait to see the reviews.

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2012, 06:01:29 AM »
* IS  does NOT cost optical performance - again see 70-200/4L IS optically superior to the non-IS version
* IS does not add a lot to manufacturing costs, even though Canon massively overcharges for the feature. See Tamron and Sigma lenses with optical stabilization

As far as the first point goes the 70-200 f/4 IS is a much newer and more expensive lens plus of course its a f/4 lens.

As far as the latter goes I'd mention the Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC and non VC versions, thats an example of "cheap IS" and it seems to be pretty much universally considered to have come at the cost of optical performance. The new Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS does deliver performance near to the Canon but with less range and much less difference in price.

Seems to me that while adding IS to a lens need not be expensive doing so without damaging optical performance on more advanced optics is not.

Both Canon and Nikon do IMHO seem to be missing out on a market creating more affordable FF zooms though, I can understand it to some extent hoping that the brand will pursuade users to pickup a more expense higher end product but something like the new 24-70 does seem to be pushing that to me.
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2012, 06:01:29 AM »

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2012, 09:09:16 PM »

As far as the first point goes the 70-200 f/4 IS is a much newer and more expensive lens plus of course its a f/4 lens.

As far as the latter goes I'd mention the Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC and non VC versions, thats an example of "cheap IS" and it seems to be pretty much universally considered to have come at the cost of optical performance. The new Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS does deliver performance near to the Canon but with less range and much less difference in price.

Seems to me that while adding IS to a lens need not be expensive doing so without damaging optical performance on more advanced optics is not.

Both Canon and Nikon do IMHO seem to be missing out on a market creating more affordable FF zooms though, I can understand it to some extent hoping that the brand will pursuade users to pickup a more expense higher end product but something like the new 24-70 does seem to be pushing that to me.

I agree. I'm not one to bemoan the price of the new 24-70mm. I simply won't be a customer for it, a) because I don't need it and b) because I couldn't possibly justify spending that kind of money on it even if I could afford it. I'm sure the vast majority of Canon users share this view.

As for having no IS, I can't help thinking that Canon has got itself in a real marketing mess with the launches of the two new wide-angle IS primes. After all, who in their right mind would be shelling out £800 each for these primes if the new 24-70mm, with its promised image quality, also had IS?

Actually, who in their right mind will shell out £800 each for these primes in any case? Canon's relentless climb up the price curve is leaving an ever-increasing void in the market which Sigma and Tamron between them will quickly fill. I doubt we will have to wait too long before Sigma launches similar (and probably faster) wide-angle OS primes at half the price. I'm looking forward to it.



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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2012, 03:43:27 AM »
As for having no IS, I can't help thinking that Canon has got itself in a real marketing mess with the launches of the two new wide-angle IS primes. After all, who in their right mind would be shelling out £800 each for these primes if the new 24-70mm, with its promised image quality, also had IS?

Actually, who in their right mind will shell out £800 each for these primes in any case? Canon's relentless climb up the price curve is leaving an ever-increasing void in the market which Sigma and Tamron between them will quickly fill. I doubt we will have to wait too long before Sigma launches similar (and probably faster) wide-angle OS primes at half the price. I'm looking forward to it.

My guess is that Canon is targetting different markets with these releases, the new 24-70 is going to be bought by either pro's or high end amatures who likely preffer the very best optical performance and using a tripod to IS. The primes seem to be aimed at a lower end users, users who want to work light without a tripod or heavy zoom and the video market, to these people IS likely makes more sense.

It does seem to bit strange that all of these lenses have come out at the same time as two new FF bodies that havent pushed MP to me though since they all seem best suited to landscape use with there improved(if Canon's charts are right anyway) boarder performance.

If Canon do put out a 30 MP+ body then I'd guess that optics are going to become an even more key battleground than they are now.
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2012, 02:44:56 PM »
when this lens will be available, I hope to find a completed test which will compare theses standard zooms
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM II
- Tamron 24-70 L SP 2.8 VC
- Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM
I'm pretty sure that we are going to see that battle at DigitalRev!

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2012, 11:18:40 AM »
when this lens will be available, I hope to find a completed test which will compare theses standard zooms
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM II
- Tamron 24-70 L SP 2.8 VC
- Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM
I'm pretty sure that we are going to see that battle at DigitalRev!
Look up "thatnikonguy" on youtube, he has down a reasonably extensive though non scientific comparison of most of these. I bought the tamron 24-70 2.8 VC last week, one of very few in AUS. I returned it due to it being a soft copy but some other stuff i noticed:
1. The VC has an activation delay. On my 24-105L the IS started as soon as i pressed the shutter, on the tamron it seems to not respond for a little under a second and then start working.
2. The vignetting is a non issue in the field.
3. The build is solid though only slightly less so than the canon 24-70 mkI
4. The AF is quick enough for anythign short of fast paced sport 1m from the camera.
5. The weight feels right on my gripped 5d, good balance.
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2012, 10:13:47 PM »
when this lens will be available, I hope to find a completed test which will compare theses standard zooms
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM II
- Tamron 24-70 L SP 2.8 VC
- Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM
I'm pretty sure that we are going to see that battle at DigitalRev!

cant wait for that video!

i also hope sigma bring out a 24-70 OS that follows the build and quality of the 85 f1.4
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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2012, 05:51:19 PM »

i also hope sigma bring out a 24-70 OS that follows the build and quality of the 85 f1.4

Now THAT would be something, and hopefully NO AF issues with Canon. 

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2012, 05:51:19 PM »

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2012, 10:33:31 AM »
when this lens will be available, I hope to find a completed test which will compare theses standard zooms
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM
- Canon 24-70 L 2.8 USM II
- Tamron 24-70 L SP 2.8 VC
- Sigma 24-70 DG EX HSM


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"That Nikon Guy" on youtube has part of what you want, a Canon 24-70 L vs Tamron 24-70 VC comparison.  Very in depth.

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2012, 10:20:41 AM »
Yes, but also very amateur-like :)
I would also like to see some tests made with a stricter scientific approach.

Anyway, the idea I have made myself til now is: the Tamron is a tad better than the Canon MK1 (especially wide open), plus it has VC and it's cheaper. A clear winner here.
The Sigma is nice as well, very similar to the Canon in optical performance, although the Canon responds better to stopping down. The Sigma is the cheapest, but it's plagued by an awful bokeh. Tamron's bokeh is ok, but Canon's is still the best.

All in all, this Tamron lens seems a very smart purchase.

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Re: Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC Announced
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2012, 10:20:41 AM »