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Canon CN-E 70-200mm t/4.4 to be Announced at NAB
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:59:34 AM »

UPDATE

It looks like the lens is a T4.4 and not a T2.8 like previously reported.


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We reported that a cinema zoom lens was coming from Canon for NAB, and it looks like it’s going to be a CN-E 70-200mm t/4.4 lens.


We’re also expecting new firmware for the EOS 5D Mark IV to be announced this week alongside the new CN-E lens.


More to come…


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Canon CN-E 70-200mm t/4.4 to be Announced at NAB
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:59:34 AM »

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 08:21:57 AM »
So no new camera body yet. 

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 09:41:13 AM »
So no new camera body yet.

I still think will see a new cinema body, possibly a C200, an update to the c100, or something like a 5D C. Canon is losing market share daily.
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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 10:00:04 AM »
So no new camera body yet.

I still think will see a new cinema body, possibly a C200, an update to the c100, or something like a 5D C. Canon is losing market share daily.

you mean on video cameras I suspect...

They need a 1DC Mark II that shoots 8K.  a halo project.

a 5DC would mean nothing.

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 01:14:41 PM »
So no new camera body yet.

I still think will see a new cinema body, possibly a C200, an update to the c100, or something like a 5D C. Canon is losing market share daily.

you mean on video cameras I suspect...

They need a 1DC Mark II that shoots 8K.  a halo project.

a 5DC would mean nothing.

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

But simply the firmware update with outlined specs, if true, would help. Canon needs something to compete with Sony's FF mirrorless offerings from a video standpoint, which are gaining marketshare daily.

Also, I agree that a 1DC Mark II that shoots 6 or 8K would create the publicity they need, but hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 01:17:42 PM by transpo1 »

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2017, 01:40:04 PM »

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

Umm sure, but then it's not a 5D then is it?


hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.

if hybrid shooters don't want large heavy cameras, then they already have the GH4/5. they wouldn't be looking at a canon EF mount camera.

and are sony doing well? how do you know that? how are they doing against canon's full frame cameras? we just have a two month snippet where sony said they did well.  how long have the A7's been selling for?

canon will go 8k before 6k, and maybe even before 4K, that has to be running by 2020.


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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 02:09:42 PM »

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

Umm sure, but then it's not a 5D then is it?


hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.

if hybrid shooters don't want large heavy cameras, then they already have the GH4/5. they wouldn't be looking at a canon EF mount camera.

and are sony doing well? how do you know that? how are they doing against canon's full frame cameras? we just have a two month snippet where sony said they did well.  how long have the A7's been selling for?

canon will go 8k before 6k, and maybe even before 4K, that has to be running by 2020.

Well, We know Sony is doing well as they've already over taken Nikon. So... Yeah.

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 02:09:42 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 05:33:07 PM »

Well, We know Sony is doing well as they've already over taken Nikon. So... Yeah.

yeah for 2 month in a year when they ran both body and lens sales and nikon did not and it includes the A99II.

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 06:26:33 PM »

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

Umm sure, but then it's not a 5D then is it?


hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.

if hybrid shooters don't want large heavy cameras, then they already have the GH4/5. they wouldn't be looking at a canon EF mount camera.

and are sony doing well? how do you know that? how are they doing against canon's full frame cameras? we just have a two month snippet where sony said they did well.  how long have the A7's been selling for?

canon will go 8k before 6k, and maybe even before 4K, that has to be running by 2020.

Sorry, GH4/GH5 are not FF- suitable for video, but the stills are lacking. Hybrid shooters WOULD be looking at a Canon EF mount (or M mount) camera if Canon made one with great 4K suitable for their needs. That's the point.

And it's possible Sony is playing games with their numbers, but what caught my eye was the rate of growth among their FF shooters- desirable cameras for videographers who will grow up to buy Sony cinema cameras, not Cinema EOS.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 09:10:40 PM by transpo1 »

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 01:59:12 AM »
Admin any leaks of a photo?

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 09:04:50 AM »

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

Umm sure, but then it's not a 5D then is it?


hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.

if hybrid shooters don't want large heavy cameras, then they already have the GH4/5. they wouldn't be looking at a canon EF mount camera.

and are sony doing well? how do you know that? how are they doing against canon's full frame cameras? we just have a two month snippet where sony said they did well.  how long have the A7's been selling for?

canon will go 8k before 6k, and maybe even before 4K, that has to be running by 2020.
Depends on where you aim the camera. 8K oversampled for 4K still requires a huge amount of data handling even Hollywood studios bulk at the data management currently and 6K is more commonly used.
8K on a FF sensor, 6K on Super 35 are more likely where Canon will be headed in the near future.
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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2017, 09:54:49 AM »
We reported that a cinema zoom lens was coming from Canon for NAB, and it looks like it’s going to be a CN-E 70-200mm lens.</p>
<p>We’re also expecting new firmware for the EOS 5D Mark IV to be announced this week alongside the new CN-E lens.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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Any rumored price estimates?

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 11:43:36 AM »

A 5DC with sharp FF or 1.3x crop 4K video, C-Log, a decent codec and video-focused tools would be something- it would be even better if it did not have a mirror and had an electronic VF.

Umm sure, but then it's not a 5D then is it?


hybrid shooters don't want huge, heavy cameras- they want an EDC carry. That's why the FF Sonys are doing so well.

if hybrid shooters don't want large heavy cameras, then they already have the GH4/5. they wouldn't be looking at a canon EF mount camera.

and are sony doing well? how do you know that? how are they doing against canon's full frame cameras? we just have a two month snippet where sony said they did well.  how long have the A7's been selling for?

canon will go 8k before 6k, and maybe even before 4K, that has to be running by 2020.
Depends on where you aim the camera. 8K oversampled for 4K still requires a huge amount of data handling even Hollywood studios bulk at the data management currently and 6K is more commonly used.
8K on a FF sensor, 6K on Super 35 are more likely where Canon will be headed in the near future.

canon must do 8k by 2020.  at least on the cini line if not one halo dslr product.

not even for hollywood, but for the Japan Olympics. 

even panasonic and olympus are stating that's their goal as well.  even though 8k on a m43's sensor? ugh?

we know they already have a sensor in the CINI line that can do 8k for the last 18 months or so.


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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 11:43:36 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2017, 11:44:37 AM »
We reported that a cinema zoom lens was coming from Canon for NAB, and it looks like it’s going to be a CN-E 70-200mm lens.</p>
<p>We’re also expecting new firmware for the EOS 5D Mark IV to be announced this week alongside the new CN-E lens.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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probably one of those, if you have to ask, you can't afford it CINI lenses.

Any rumored price estimates?

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Re: Canon CN-E 70-200mm to be Announced at NAB
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 01:24:37 PM »
probably one of those, if you have to ask, you can't afford it CINI lenses.

Let's see what the feature set and F or T stop range are before assuming that.  I'm hopeful this might be on the higher end of affordable. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2017, 01:24:37 PM »