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LonelyBoy

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2017, 06:28:11 PM »
Gee, I guess I have to go and dump my 25-105 f/4 because its no longer the best.

Just revamping old lenses into new ones is not innovation.

Who exactly said that?  People still use the Magic Drainpipe and the 50/1.0.  And the 400/5.6.  And lots of others.  Who said that because Canon moved their support on you had to ditch a lens?  :o

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2017, 06:28:11 PM »

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2017, 02:22:53 PM »
There are a good number more Canon lenses that could and should be "officially discontinued".
First and foremost 75-300 III and 75-300 III USM come to mind, pieces of junk.

Are any of the following officially discontinued ?   
* 50/1.8 II (replaced by STM)
* 135/2.8 SF (no replacement)
* 28/1.8 USM (replaced by 28/2.8 IS)
* 28-135 (replaced by 24-105 IS STM "non L")
* 17-40/4 L (replaced by 16-35/4 L)
* 16-35 / 2.8 L II (replaced by Mk. III)
* 200/2.8 L II (replaced by 70-200/2.8 II IS)
* 28-300 L (no replacement)
* 24-70 / 2.8 L (replaced by Mk. II)
* 100-400 L (replaced by Mk. II)
* 70-200 / 4 L (replaced by IS)

Yikes.  A few glaring errors above

The 28 f/1.8 was not replaced with the 28 f/2.8 IS.  The 28 f/2.8 IS version replaced the 28 f/2.8.  As far as I can tell, Canon sees fit to offer a [fast] and [slow + IS] 28 prime for the FF folks.  They are separate product lines for different needs.

And the IS version of the 70-200s did not replace the non-IS version of anything.  Canon for a long time wanted 4 price points in the 70-200 L space -- f/2.8 and f/4, IS and non-IS.

And the 200 f/2.8L II was not replaced by a 70-200 -- it's just another option.  Some folks love the 200 prime's size and weight compared to the zoom.

And the 17-40L may be on it's way out (someday), but Canon doesn't seem to be in a hurry there.  How many folks are snapping that one up when they jump from crop to FF and need a (relatively) affordable UWA zoom option?

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2017, 02:05:32 PM »
And the IS version of the 70-200s did not replace the non-IS version of anything.  Canon for a long time wanted 4 price points in the 70-200 L space -- f/2.8 and f/4, IS and non-IS.

Not to challenge, but I'm curious - where did they say that?  That seems unusually open for them (and seems like a very cluttered 70-200L range, especially alongside the two 70-300s.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2017, 02:15:02 PM »
And the IS version of the 70-200s did not replace the non-IS version of anything.  Canon for a long time wanted 4 price points in the 70-200 L space -- f/2.8 and f/4, IS and non-IS.

Not to challenge, but I'm curious - where did they say that?  That seems unusually open for them (and seems like a very cluttered 70-200L range, especially alongside the two 70-300s.

Never stated, only inferred from what was offered.  They kept all four lenses in production simultaneously and sold them alongside one another.

I believe the IS II replaced the original IS at one point, and the non-IS f/2.8 was eventually obsoleted, but at one point, it was indeed a four price point market offering -- the envy of the industry, IMHO.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2017, 11:15:07 PM »
One more plug for the much maligned Canon 70-300mm DO (hoping for and update), here is a Jamaican Hummingbird shot on a 60D with a high density APS-C sensor and the 70-300mm DO.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2017, 09:30:50 AM »
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DJL329

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 12:03:56 PM »
And the IS version of the 70-200s did not replace the non-IS version of anything.  Canon for a long time wanted 4 price points in the 70-200 L space -- f/2.8 and f/4, IS and non-IS.

Not to challenge, but I'm curious - where did they say that?  That seems unusually open for them (and seems like a very cluttered 70-200L range, especially alongside the two 70-300s.

Never stated, only inferred from what was offered.  They kept all four lenses in production simultaneously and sold them alongside one another.

I believe the IS II replaced the original IS at one point, and the non-IS f/2.8 was eventually obsoleted, but at one point, it was indeed a four price point market offering -- the envy of the industry, IMHO.

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Actually, the non-IS 70-200mm f/2.8L was not retired.  It is still part of the line-up and available for purchase, even direct from Canon.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/91680-USA/Canon_2569A004_70_200mm_f_2_8L_USM_Autofocus.html

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-usm

Having four different versions/price points gives consumers a choice based on the features they want/price they're willing to pay, in a popular focal range.
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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2017, 12:03:56 PM »

ahsanford

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2017, 12:17:38 PM »
Actually, the non-IS 70-200mm f/2.8L was not retired.  It is still part of the line-up and available for purchase, even direct from Canon.

I stand corrected, thanks.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2017, 12:50:24 PM »
Actually, the non-IS 70-200mm f/2.8L was not retired.  It is still part of the line-up and available for purchase, even direct from Canon.
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Having four different versions/price points gives consumers a choice based on the features they want/price they're willing to pay, in a popular focal range.

Correct, the 70-200/2.8 L non IS is also still listed with Canon in Europa and at stores.

But actually i rather believe Canon is still sitting on a large stockpile of unsold 70-200/2.8 L (non IS) lenses ... probably they made some "minimum size production run" ... customers either went for the IS versions or got the f/4 with IS for less money, if budget was tight.

I'd be really surprised, if they still produce that lens currently.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2017, 01:23:57 AM »
Replacement for every discontinued product (here I mean to say for the lens) is available?

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2017, 02:09:19 AM »
Replacement for every discontinued product (here I mean to say for the lens) is available?
as stated in start post of thread: for 2 of the 3 officially discontinued lenses canon has launched successors. for 70-300 DO there is no direct successor (yet).

for most of the other "non officially discontinued old dog lenses" there are good/better alternatives available, by Canon and /or 3rd party brands.

overall there are far more overlapping lens models offered than really needed. only 2 lenses are truly missing: EF 50/1.4 II (possibly with IS) for ahsanford and EF-M 85/2.4 IS STM for me ... ;-)
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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2017, 04:18:03 PM »
First and foremost 75-300 III and 75-300 III USM come to mind, pieces of junk.

That is clearly the worst lens I own. But I have a new appreciation for it after I saw the pictures I got of the eclipse. Some CA, but otherwise sharp. Sunspots show up well in the photos before totality.

Once I buy a 6D2, I'll start looking at lenses. I'll get a 24-105 kit lens with it, and will want something wider, and then I'll replace the 75-300, but I haven't decided with what. I don't shoot a lot of telephoto pictures, but some of that comes from not having a particularly good telephoto lens. I don't use the 10-22mm lens with my Rebel that much either since I don't shoot for realtors any more. So I might not be in a big rush for a super wide.

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »
Be careful.  Someone will come along here and tell you their old rebel could capture photos like these and that you shouldn't be able to do this without the flagship body in hand. 

Nice work. 
Pull!... click... crap!  Lemme try it again...
Pull!  click... boom... crap! Lemme try it again...
Definition of insanity?

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Re: Canon Officially Discontinues Three Lenses
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »