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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 01:48:17 PM »
My homeowners' general policy only covers individual items up to $1500 each, which generally covers everything I own except for my 5D3 and 70-200 f/2.8L IS II. 

Since you suggest sweating the details, if your general policy has a deductible and it applies to personal property, you need to take that into account.  If a 6D + 35/2 IS is stolen on vacation, a $1000 deductible means you'll still be out over a grand to replace them.   It's also important to understand what types of loss are covered.  Many homeowners' policies cover theft and fire damage, but if you accidentally drop your camera in the ocean, you're SOL as far as the insurance goes.  It's also important to confirm that the coverage will be in force where you go – some policies only cover loss domestically, for example. 

Most general homeowners policies also only cover the depreciated cost – that depreciation is relatively slow for the building, but pretty fast for personal electronics.  For example, you may file a claim on your 5DIII that you bought at launch in 2012, and be told it is fully depreciated and is worth nothing. 

My personal articles policy is good worldwide and covers theft, damage, and loss, regardless of reason, and as stated above there's no deductible and items are covered at replacement cost, not depreciated value.  Personally, for those reasons it might be worth considering a rider/separate policy even if most/all of your gear falls under the per item and total limits of the general homeowners policy.

Apologies to the OP, maybe not the place for this tangent – but if you're considering gear insurance for your trip, maybe it is relevant (and if you haven't considered it, maybe you should).
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 01:48:17 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2017, 02:04:12 PM »
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Yes there are situations where the stitching is not optimal, blue 'hour' atmospheric being one,

I presume you're referring to vehicle lights moving ? Not an issue if you are doing a vertical "portrait" stitch ! ( I know, it's not exactly wider, I'm only joking!).

For me, it's as much about the total time.  For example, this a 13-shot pano along the Rhine in Basel, I didn't bracket (they're just single 10 s exposures), but if I had the cumulative exposure time for the pano would have been around 15 minutes, and that's not counting setup, etc. – that's a good chunk of the blue hour!



Still...the detail you get with a pano is pretty fantastic, even with a 'low res' 18 MP sensor. 
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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2017, 02:18:28 PM »
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Yes there are situations where the stitching is not optimal, blue 'hour' atmospheric being one,

I presume you're referring to vehicle lights moving ? Not an issue if you are doing a vertical "portrait" stitch ! ( I know, it's not exactly wider, I'm only joking!).

For me, it's as much about the total time.  For example, this a 13-shot pano along the Rhine in Basel, I didn't bracket (they're just single 10 s exposures), but if I had the cumulative exposure time for the pano would have been around 15 minutes, and that's not counting setup, etc. – that's a good chunk of the blue hour!


Still...the detail you get with a pano is pretty fantastic, even with a 'low res' 18 MP sensor.

We all know an 18 mp FF sensor isn't really low res Neuro   ;)

Yes, with a pano that wide I rather see what you mean  :)  A fascinating shot for a large wall !

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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2017, 02:42:58 PM »
Thanks for all the info.  It's been enormously helpful. 
I think that my ideal scenario would be to ditch the 35 for a 16-35 4.0 IS, but bringing the 35-only wouldn't be tragic.  Might add my 135 2.0 to the mix in a small case (I have the perfect Think Tank Slim Changer). 
A 70-300L is on the wish list and a 24-70 is very attractive, but I think I might prefer a 16-35/50mm combo long-term.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2017, 02:53:17 PM »
Maybe I should get a Sony so I can push the black sky back up to a nice blue color?   ;)

I couldn't find the like button, so I'll just say yes, you should get a far superior Sony. Canon will be dead in two years anyways.
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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2017, 02:54:44 PM »
Maybe I should get a Sony so I can push the black sky back up to a nice blue color?   ;)

I couldn't find the like button, so I'll just say yes, you should get a far superior Sony. Canon will be dead in two years anyways.

I go on vacation and come back to no like button. 

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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2017, 03:53:10 PM »
Using primes solely would annoy me.

I'm heading to Germany, Switzerland, and Italy in about two weeks time and I'm taking the 11-24 and the 24-70 f/2.8 II. I wish I could take my 70-200 as well, but alas I won't have room.

While I love primes, they just don't offer that much versatility while travelling around. You have to be satisfied just getting specific kinds of shots with them.

To each their own, though. :)

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2017, 05:08:04 PM »
Even if Sony is "far superior" I'd rather stick with inferior than go through a learning curve.  Already familiar with Canon so Canon wins.  Reminds me of when I used to race motorcycles against guys with every performance modification possible.  I had none other than precision maintenance and just an aftermarket reed valve (just because no one didn't not have one).  I came in 1st place in one national event and top 10 in several others and 2nd in the overall Amateur Nationals in 1991 in horribly inferior gear.
Thank goodness that's over.  No idea what I was thinking at the time, but it did directly lead to a career (in year 26) in orthopaedic sales and marrying an orthopaedic nurse.  My final performance drove my femur out the back of my a**.  Was so awesome.  Being an optimist I first asked the medical personnel if it was a bad sprain and passed out at some point in the ER even before medication was administered.
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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2017, 05:30:40 PM »
I can think of less painful ways of getting a woman's attention!  :-X

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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2017, 05:34:52 PM »
Maybe I should get a Sony so I can push the black sky back up to a nice blue color?   ;)

I couldn't find the like button, so I'll just say yes, you should get a far superior Sony. Canon will be dead in two years anyways.

I go on vacation and come back to no like button. 

This is why we can't have nice things, people.

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I'm guessing (don't know) that the like button is incompatible with the new forum software and was removed for the transfer of data from old to new.  That kind of detail can trip up a data transfer.  There will have to be lots of hair pulling to get all the data moved and in the right format.  We may see more things shut off if they conflict with the transfer. 


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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2017, 06:12:33 PM »
Thanks for all the info.  It's been enormously helpful. 
I think that my ideal scenario would be to ditch the 35 for a 16-35 4.0 IS, but bringing the 35-only wouldn't be tragic.  Might add my 135 2.0 to the mix in a small case (I have the perfect Think Tank Slim Changer). 
A 70-300L is on the wish list and a 24-70 is very attractive, but I think I might prefer a 16-35/50mm combo long-term.

 8) :-* :)

Very interesting and informative discussion.  My preference is for the 16-35 over the 35, although ahsandford lays out the case for the 35 very well.  Handheld stitching is an option.  I like the 85 over the 50.  There just isn't all that much difference between 35 and 50, and cropping is always an option.  Thanks for getting this discussion started

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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 06:27:42 PM »
Here is my general travel kit.

It all fits in the ThinkTank Retrospective 10 including the iPad I took the picture with. The pouch holds my chargers and all the cables I need including a TC-80N3 remote. I sometimes augment this with a small battery powered Canon CP printer to give away small prints.

For more involved travel work where I know I need the 17 or 11-24 I take a ThinkTank Urban Disguise and swap the small tripod for a Manfrotto 055CXPRO3 and Acratech GP head.

This has worked for me for several years now and, for me, beats the hell out of carrying three f2.8 zooms!

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2017, 06:29:13 PM »
What a hard decision.

If I could only take one lens it would be the 24-70. If I didn't have the 24-70, then a 35mm.
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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2017, 08:13:28 PM »
Why just one lens? If this to self-impose creativity on a trip, I think that is an error. Do that in your own backyard. Adding a second prime dramatically increases options.
I'm having a similar question with a 2 1/2 week trip at the end of the month to Moscow, St Petersburg, Tallinn and Stockholm. I'm thinking of a 6D plus 35/2 and 85/1.8 or M3 plus 11-22 and 55-200. My brain is saying the M3 wins with flexibility and smaller size (less risk in eastern Europe) but my heart knows how much I love images shot with the primes on FF, especially wide open. Plus the built-in GPS helps locate photos afterwards.
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Re: Travel With One Prime Only? Italy Approaches.
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 09:25:33 PM »
Why just one lens? If this to self-impose creativity on a trip, I think that is an error.
To keep it light and it rarely goes well when trying to slow down and work on photography with the family in tow.  I need total concentration and focus and they tend to bust ba**s. 
My 135 will likely tag along and I think I might like to go with a 16-35 4.0 even if rented.
The family already said that they'll cut me a break this time, but I still don't want to push it.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 09:25:33 PM »