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Zeidora

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 09:36:00 PM »
I like the current 5DsR quite a bit.
- Tilt screen? no thanks. It adds bulk, and adds stuff that can break. If you need some alternate view points, you can use your smart phone via wireless, or third party device.
- File size? 50 MP is quite good; 60 why not. >100 not going to help that much anymore because of lens limitations.
- GPS: yes please!
- CFast: absolutely.
- Video: toss it out [not gonna happen, but that's my take].
- user interchangeable focusing screen (like on 5D2): I want it, but I think it is wishful thinking.

If it is a quick turn around, I wonder whether it will have sufficient new features/better specs that I would upgrade. I only went from 5D2 to 5DsR, left the 5D3 out. If it takes a bit longer taking into account rather low production runs, then it might be worth it.
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 09:36:00 PM »

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 09:52:16 PM »
I would love to see same pixel pitch as 7d3 (24mp being a safe bet) so 60.8mp at 4fps and a 1.6 'crop mode' allowing 8 fps (same mirror assembly as 5d4.)

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2017, 09:27:38 AM »
Were a funny bunch us photographers. Frankly 50mp is more than enough but there are a few areas they could improve.

1. Built-in GPS & Wi-Fi
2. Touch screen
3. Illuminated frame line generator (red border frame line and crop frame lines). I shot a shoot against a black background in a darkened room and its hard to see the edge of frame in this situation for instance
4. The quick access control for AF the 5D MKIV has
5. Better low light performance

1,2 & 4 are already in the 5D MKIV so 3 & 5 are the immediate things Canon to please work on.

Note the original 5DS already had the improved mirror assembly, anti-flicker, intervalometer, better metering etc that the 5D MKIV adopted. 
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2017, 11:46:20 AM »
I like the current 5DsR quite a bit.
- Tilt screen? no thanks. It adds bulk, and adds stuff that can break.
Stats show that they break no more than fixed screens.

Zeidora

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2017, 11:37:56 PM »
I like the current 5DsR quite a bit.
- Tilt screen? no thanks. It adds bulk, and adds stuff that can break.
Stats show that they break no more than fixed screens.
Care to elaborate? The hinge on a hinged screen can break, while it cannot on a fixed one because it does not exist. So how can the hinge break at the same rate?
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2017, 12:30:39 AM »
I like the current 5DsR quite a bit.
- Tilt screen? no thanks. It adds bulk, and adds stuff that can break.
Stats show that they break no more than fixed screens.
Care to elaborate? The hinge on a hinged screen can break, while it cannot on a fixed one because it does not exist. So how can the hinge break at the same rate?
True, but the risk is quantifiable and can be mitigated through good design.  The memory card door is also hinged, but we don't insist on built-in only flash memory.  I believe LensRentals stated some time ago that the incidence of damage to the tilt screens was very low, and they should know.

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2017, 01:05:16 AM »
I like the current 5DsR quite a bit.
- Tilt screen? no thanks. It adds bulk, and adds stuff that can break.
Stats show that they break no more than fixed screens.
Care to elaborate? The hinge on a hinged screen can break, while it cannot on a fixed one because it does not exist. So how can the hinge break at the same rate?
Because your logic is failed. Backside of moveable screen serves to protect it much better. BTW, you hear very little about broken flippy screens - as you do for broken flat screens.

Anyway. More importantly, Lensrentals ran the stats based on their 10.000's of camera rentals and found no discernible difference in the failure rate between the two.

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2017, 01:05:16 AM »

Zeidora

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2017, 01:40:31 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2017, 08:49:35 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!

I couldn't find the exact reference, but found some quotes on another website: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56827252

That that FWIW.

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2017, 10:42:54 AM »
I have a 5Dsr and love the big, raw files it produces. But I'd like to see six major improvements:

One: The camera is too big and heavy. Pare it down to the size and weight of a 5Dm4.

Two: Though I know people will say this is contradictory, I want a full, flippy, variangle touchscreen like that on the 6D2. It's strong and reliable, adds very little to the size and weight, and is immensely useful for still photography, as well as for video.

Three: the buffering time of the present camera is way too slow. Of course, it takes some time to deal with the big files, but hopefully improvements in circuitry and memory cards can make the next generation 5Dsr faster.

Four: Along those lines, we need card slots (two, please) that take faster, newer generation card types.

Five: I hardly ever shoot video, but the almost total lack of 4k in 6D2 and the very poor implementation of it in the 5D4 is outrageous and dumb. Canon has to compete with Sony, Fuji and Lumix, and while Canon cannot be expected to deliver enormous, 50 MP, full frame, 4k in this camera, it has got to give videographers and hybrid photographers something in 4k that they can use and which is competitive.

Six:  Better low-light performance. Hopefully the 6D2 will be a low-light champion, but improvements in the 5Dsr would also be very welcome.

Please note that I'm not asking for more megapixels, though Canon will probaly add a few. More important now, I think, is lowlight capability, dynamic range, and a bigger buffer.

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2017, 11:52:33 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!

I couldn't find the exact reference, but found some quotes on another website: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56827252

That that FWIW.
That is the documentation. Their email to someone who asked.

Zeidora

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 12:26:06 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!

I couldn't find the exact reference, but found some quotes on another website: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56827252

That that FWIW.
That is the documentation. Their email to someone who asked.
He actually takes the 5th on it. I also wonder why 1D series do not have it, if it is such a great thing. Might it have something to do with reliability? And it certainly adds bulk. My point stands.
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 12:40:16 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!

I couldn't find the exact reference, but found some quotes on another website: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56827252

That that FWIW.
That is the documentation. Their email to someone who asked.
He actually takes the 5th on it. I also wonder why 1D series do not have it, if it is such a great thing. Might it have something to do with reliability? And it certainly adds bulk. My point stands.
Fact denial is unquestionably in the vogue. So I guess its become OK. Your loss.

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 12:40:16 AM »

Zeidora

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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2017, 11:03:00 AM »
Maiaibing & Orangutan. Could you provide a link to the alleged Lensrental statement? googling did not find anything. Thanks!

I couldn't find the exact reference, but found some quotes on another website: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/56827252

That that FWIW.
That is the documentation. Their email to someone who asked.
He actually takes the 5th on it. I also wonder why 1D series do not have it, if it is such a great thing. Might it have something to do with reliability? And it certainly adds bulk. My point stands.
Fact denial is unquestionably in the vogue.
On this one we agree.
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2017, 12:36:14 PM »
I would just like to see the sensor and body updated like the 5D4. No other major changes needed. The only other thing, and it may be my copy, the readout for ISO, shutter speed, etc, in the viewfinder could be brighter. I have a hard time seeing them in bright sunlight.
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Re: 5DSr successor
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2017, 12:36:14 PM »