December 15, 2017, 03:14:09 PM

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2017, 06:25:09 PM »
You'd call this image I took of my son last night desaturated?

I didn't touch the vibrance or saturation sliders and I actually desaturated the greens by -10. I reduced the luminance on the orange and yellow sliders and I only increased the saturation of the orange slider by +10 (I overexposed slightly and had to correct it).

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't actually used the equipment, hence your link to something other than your own work.

I'm pretty sure no one on this forum cares that you use Sony, or what your son looks like.  Absolutely no one.

This topic is about the upcoming 85mm lens from Canon - not about your Sony equipment, nor your son.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2017, 06:25:09 PM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2017, 07:14:42 PM »
unless the venue is so dark that you are forced to shoot at 1/60s, F2.8 and ISO 3200 with your zoom lens. Which I do routinely. with 85 F1.4 prime the ISO is down to very reasonable 1600 level and shutter speed increased to 1/125s at the same time. Thanks to F1.4 prime 2 stop aperture advantage. it works for me ;)

p.s.: attached photo was taken with Sigma 35 F1.4 wide open.



...the shallow DOF of the 85 may not be a big enough deal to give up the flexibility of the zoom.
I agree.  I love primes and I particularly love that Sigma 35 Art, which is my walk around lens responsible for at least 60% of my shots.  I think the 35mm focal length is more versatile than 85mm and it also is more generous with the DOF.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2017, 08:22:34 PM »
You'd call this image I took of my son last night desaturated?

I didn't touch the vibrance or saturation sliders and I actually desaturated the greens by -10. I reduced the luminance on the orange and yellow sliders and I only increased the saturation of the orange slider by +10 (I overexposed slightly and had to correct it).

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't actually used the equipment, hence your link to something other than your own work.

I'm pretty sure no one on this forum cares that you use Sony, or what your son looks like.  Absolutely no one.

This topic is about the upcoming 85mm lens from Canon - not about your Sony equipment, nor your son.

Mmmmmm... If only I cared what you think!

My initial post was my disappointment with how long Canon took to come out with an 85 I liked and by the time they had, I had already decided to bail for tech that better serves me. The picture of my son was in response to the assertion that Sony colors were desaturared.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2017, 10:35:18 PM »
You'd call this image I took of my son last night desaturated?

I didn't touch the vibrance or saturation sliders and I actually desaturated the greens by -10. I reduced the luminance on the orange and yellow sliders and I only increased the saturation of the orange slider by +10 (I overexposed slightly and had to correct it).

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't actually used the equipment, hence your link to something other than your own work.

I'm pretty sure no one on this forum cares that you use Sony, or what your son looks like.  Absolutely no one.

This topic is about the upcoming 85mm lens from Canon - not about your Sony equipment, nor your son.

Mmmmmm... If only I cared what you think!

My initial post was my disappointment with how long Canon took to come out with an 85 I liked and by the time they had, I had already decided to bail for tech that better serves me. The picture of my son was in response to the assertion that Sony colors were desaturared.

Great picture. That's the only thing that actually matters :)

The Batis 85 is probably one of the best quality/size lens made for the A7 platform (unlike the 85GM grinder). Sony colors are somewhat different from Canon's. Sony picks up greens everywhere, Canon - reds.

Here is my favorite A7r2/Batis shot:

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2017, 10:35:29 PM »
Are we sure this is going to be an L lens?
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2017, 02:29:25 AM »
I'm sure at 1.2 on FF the 50L and 85L clip the bokeh when wide open.

So I think the 1.4 version should give perfect bokeh wide open and no clipping at the edges. Worth a 1/2 stop of light loss imho.

Yes, the two current Canon f/1.2 lenses clip bokeh in two ways. First off, the lens barrel gets in the way for the corners, causing "cat eye" shaped out of focus hilights. Secondly, the mirror box gets in the way for top and bottom at some angles, causing out of focus hilights to look chopped off (bottom part at image top, top part at image bottom). A surprising source of well presented information on what makes bokeh balls look the way it does can be found in the features list of a tool used to simulate lens aberrations in 3D renders:

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2017, 12:05:15 PM »
Are we sure this is going to be an L lens?

yes
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2017, 12:05:15 PM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2017, 06:00:00 PM »
I sincerely believe that with this lens on my 6D that I'll be able to get chicks.

Only if you take it to the tattoo shop and get a barbed wire tattoo all the way around it.  ;)
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2017, 08:00:51 AM »
I have rented the 85/1.2 -- was shocked at the incredible optics  :o and difficulty to perfectly focus :-[.
So were my thoughts when I rented a 85 1.2 II and used it on a 5D1. Focus was not easy to achieve always. I also borrowed a 85 1.8 from a friend of mine, but did not like the images too much.
Later on, I bought a 85 1.2 II used, because - like Mr. Wilde - I just couldn't resist temptation. f/1.2 is sooooo much more light than f/1.8. DOF-shallowness also. While focus is still on the slow side, I find it not difficult to achieve perfect focus with the excellent AF system of my 5D3. Focus by wire becomes the new standard with STM lenses anyway, and I got used to it. Yes, it feels strange.
Since, I have just fallen absolutely in love with that lens. It is amazing.

the IS in the new 85 1.4 lens will be a game changer, I believe. Probably that lenses greatest asset. A real advantage over the 1.2. The rest (build quality, image rendering, colour rendering) remains to be seen, however.

PS: With the 1.2, you can get even more chicks!
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2017, 09:08:23 AM »
I've decided to give the Sony E mount system a try and this lens was the one thing making me consider staying with Canon. I grew tired of waiting and bought the Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 (which is stabilized and weather sealed) and paired it with the A7r2 (which also has in-body) and with Eye AF, the results are incredible. Also, it's half the weight of the 85mm f/1.4L IS and I bought it for $850 (used but essentially new). So, yeah, I'm missing out on 2/3 of a stop of aperture, but the AF accuracy, small size and weight, and low-cost make it more than worth it.
I know Canon won't even know about me to even consider shedding a tear, but I'm really happy with the Sony combo. And as a bonus, I actually prefer the Sony skin tones because my wife and son are both orange-heads (I don't know why we call people like them "red heads", they're not) and the Canon colors wreaked havoc on their hair and skin. The Sony colors represent them accurately. FINALLY!!!

Orange was the last color that we currently identify from the others to be distinguished and named.  This occurred after the term "red-head" was coined.

There are other cultures (I believe certain indigenous cultures in Mexico) that don't distinguish between blue and green.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #55 on: August 17, 2017, 11:13:00 AM »
I sincerely believe that with this lens on my 6D that I'll be able to get chicks.

Is that what you call it?

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2017, 02:46:14 PM »
You'd call this image I took of my son last night desaturated?

I didn't touch the vibrance or saturation sliders and I actually desaturated the greens by -10. I reduced the luminance on the orange and yellow sliders and I only increased the saturation of the orange slider by +10 (I overexposed slightly and had to correct it).

I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't actually used the equipment, hence your link to something other than your own work.

I'm pretty sure no one on this forum cares that you use Sony, or what your son looks like.  Absolutely no one.

This topic is about the upcoming 85mm lens from Canon - not about your Sony equipment, nor your son.

I'm sure you are an abrasive goon.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2017, 10:10:31 PM »
Not in the market for this lens as I love my 100 macro IS lens. Recall how I used to love a 85 f2 Rokkor lens. Very compact, and, by my standards f2 is a fast lens.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2017, 10:10:31 PM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2017, 03:15:47 AM »
I think i will probably upgrade my 85 1.8
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2017, 07:42:28 AM »
this is awesome. love to get the 85 IS. but too bad its not 1.2

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #59 on: August 26, 2017, 07:42:28 AM »