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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 09:11:23 AM »
IMO, it's an EF-M lens in three colors and nada to do with this.

Canon may surprise us. :D

After all, you predicted only 4 new lenses from Canon in 2017.

So far, we already have 2. And if we add the 85 f/1.4 + 3 tilt-shift + EF-M lens (in multicolors), we will have 7 new lenses. That will break the trend you described previously. :D

yup. it would totally break the photokina trend with canon.

they may surprise us for sure, but the TS-E's aren't going to be made in Malaysia.

In a way, it clarifies the mirrorless full frame, it must be EF - if they are still going nuts to the wall with EF lenses if they had plans of introducing a new mount.

it will also be a little disappointing, because they really do need to spend resources on M lenses but these lenses are so far down the pipeline, it could be a .. may as well release them.

it will certainly affirm once again.. the canon "system".


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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 09:11:23 AM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2017, 09:37:16 AM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

I     W A N T

A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

of course... AFAIK, not FULLY developed yet.. not my focus here..
(although it could be interesting .. but autofocus/I.S. is minimum feature).
so
the macro is the one  I   W A N T
and it needs I.S.  .... for my use
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2017, 10:00:23 AM »
IS on a TS-E makes very little sense. TS work is done on tripod, a fortiori in macro.
I'm surprised nobody is complaining about lack of AF on TS-Es. just kidding ...
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2017, 10:03:49 AM »
I've never used a tilt-shift lens before. I wonder how affordable these will be.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2017, 10:05:12 AM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

I     W A N T

A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

of course... AFAIK, not FULLY developed yet.. not my focus here..
(although it could be interesting .. but autofocus/I.S. is minimum feature).
so
the macro is the one  I   W A N T
and it needs I.S.  .... for my use

why would it? a T/S macro would never be able to be hand held.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2017, 10:25:58 AM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

I     W A N T

A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

of course... AFAIK, not FULLY developed yet.. not my focus here..
(although it could be interesting .. but autofocus/I.S. is minimum feature).
so
the macro is the one  I   W A N T
and it needs I.S.  .... for my use

The 'Macro' listed is a TS-E, so it won't have IS, it won't have AF either. So apart from those two 'needs' of yours it looks to be the perfect lens for you  ::)
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2017, 11:55:04 AM »
I am interested in TS lenses.. lovely....
BUT
the Macro 135mm f2.8L   I.S.   
if it is good to edges, it can knock out the Sigma 135 (no I.S.)
this one I have wanted for a while..

if they make it f4...... well... I wont be as interested
and...it better be perfect in every other way...

like 16" 1:1 distance.....
w/ a good I.S. system too...
nice for chasing bugs..

then this will be another portrait lens too...
it needs f2.8 for this .. imo...

I     W A N T

A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

of course... AFAIK, not FULLY developed yet.. not my focus here..
(although it could be interesting .. but autofocus/I.S. is minimum feature).
so
the macro is the one  I   W A N T
and it needs I.S.  .... for my use

The 'Macro' listed is a TS-E, so it won't have IS, it won't have AF either. So apart from those two 'needs' of yours it looks to be the perfect lens for you  ::)

ok..I see I 'read'  135 ONLY  ..
that's me projecting ..I guess.. on what I wanted fron Can the longer macro with I.S. ...
I do know they have patents etc.. but ..I missed the TS part..
 
///

of course the TS-e 135 would be useful to many (no I.S./no auto) ..
but I want to chase bugs...   different need there..

....thanks..... for FINALLY getting me to re read the post..
I  saw what 'I wanted to see'  .... haha...


later
 

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2017, 11:55:04 AM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2017, 12:30:54 PM »
"I don't get a 135 at all. At all. 100 or 120"

135mm is no good but 120 mm, a mere 15 mm difference is?

Clearly Canon are making the 135mm to be clearly differentiated from the 90mm. A rather interesting idea. I would have thought a 35mm TSE would be more popular, but time will tell

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2017, 01:27:00 PM »
Just put 135mm into my tilt table spreadsheet and I do wonder if it means a new movements mechanism?

For those not familiar with the info see details at

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/using-lens-tilt-on-your-digital-slr/

although for macro I'd be more likely to use an iterative technique for focus like at

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/alternative-focus-technique-for-tilted-lens/

Using the 90 for macro work I often wish for more than 8 degrees tilt - moving this to 135mm  make me very curious as to the mechanics

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Re: 135mm and the tilt tables
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2017, 01:37:16 PM »
Just put 135mm into my tilt table spreadsheet and I do wonder if it means a new movements mechanism?

For those not familiar with the info see details at

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/using-lens-tilt-on-your-digital-slr/

although for macro I'd be more likely to use an iterative technique for focus like at

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/alternative-focus-technique-for-tilted-lens/

Using the 90 for macro work I often wish for more than 8 degrees tilt - moving this to 135mm  make me very curious as to the mechanics

Ditto, I've been pointing out for years here that deep mirror boxes don't play well with large tilt angles, compound that with macro distance J point distances and, well, let's wait and see......
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, DR, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2017, 01:56:50 PM »
Darn, I want the first three.

Intrigued by the last one  ;D

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2017, 02:23:38 PM »
Darn, I want the first three.

Intrigued by the last one  ;D

Yes, annoyingly so am I!

I do have a use for the first three, though if the 90 has a long mfd and the 135 is interesting enough I could see me getting that instead. I do some repetitive product work the size of a coffee mug and have held off getting a TS-E 90 so far and used the 100 L macro, if a TS-E 135 macro could replace both then it might make sense. I use the 100 L for headshots too and was thinking the 85 f1.4 would be nicer for that.

I can't wait for the 5DS/R MkII and four way shift stitched panos from the TS-E45, one thing I will say for Canon, they are one of the most innovative camera companies out there!
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2017, 04:19:40 PM »
Darn, I want the first three.

Intrigued by the last one  ;D

Yes, annoyingly so am I!

I do have a use for the first three, though if the 90 has a long mfd and the 135 is interesting enough I could see me getting that instead. I do some repetitive product work the size of a coffee mug and have held off getting a TS-E 90 so far and used the 100 L macro, if a TS-E 135 macro could replace both then it might make sense. I use the 100 L for headshots too and was thinking the 85 f1.4 would be nicer for that.

I can't wait for the 5DS/R MkII and four way shift stitched panos from the TS-E45, one thing I will say for Canon, they are one of the most innovative camera companies out there!

Yes the 45mm looks very tempting for that ! The 24 mm is just too wide for me generally, and even 35 is often too wide for my style of panoramic. Also you get so much in genuine focus with a normal 24, whereas being able to tilt a 45...... hmmmmm.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2017, 04:19:40 PM »

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2017, 05:12:28 PM »
A TS-E lens is not going to have image stabilization.

Or autofocus. 

If you do not need tilt or shift -- if you are just buying the T/S lens to use as a really sharp prime, I'd buy the Sigma every time because good-but-not-great AF tends to mop the floor with lenses that have no AF, and the likelihood anything demonstrably outresolves that Sigma 135 Art for a similar price are effectively zero.

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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2017, 06:45:21 PM »
To all that say a TS-E macro doesn't make sense as a handheld lens, remember the MP-E 65mm? A totally manual lens aside from aperture control? I, as well as many others, "run and gun" with this lens for great results. Absolutely no reason that you could not do this with a TS-E.

Set the lens how you want, go shoot. I'd set it so that I could use a lower aperture at angle, thereby meaning I'd need less flash. This would also allow you to get a lot more bug in focus than with a standard plane. Just thinking about this gets me giddy.

I'm still begging that the 135mm have MT-24EX support.
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Re: New Tilt Shift Lenses to be 45mm, 90mm, 135mm [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2017, 06:45:21 PM »