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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2017, 01:58:49 PM »
I swear every time I hear an update on the 85mm f/1.4L IS Canon is deliberately trying to get me to switch to using primes. So far every detail has practically been the ideal prime for me and it's just getting better each time. "Between" the f/1.2 and f/1.8? I swear Canon, I'm not a big prime lens guy, but if this lens costs even a dollar less than the 85mm f/1.2L II right now, I'm probably gonna end up pre-ordering it..

I was incredibly surprised by the 16-35mm f/4L IS, so here's hoping Canon does it again.
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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2017, 01:58:49 PM »

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2017, 05:01:37 PM »
I swear every time I hear an update on the 85mm f/1.4L IS Canon is deliberately trying to get me to switch to using primes. So far every detail has practically been the ideal prime for me and it's just getting better each time. "Between" the f/1.2 and f/1.8? I swear Canon, I'm not a big prime lens guy, but if this lens costs even a dollar less than the 85mm f/1.2L II right now, I'm probably gonna end up pre-ordering it..

I was incredibly surprised by the 16-35mm f/4L IS, so here's hoping Canon does it again.

The 85mm is a good match to a WA zoom like a 16-35mm. The classic PJ combo for the trenches was a 35 and a 90 on the Leica M2s...

I have a Takumar 85/1.9 and a 17-40/4 L for my 1D2. Plus the EF-M 22/2.0 and the FD 50/1.8 for the EOS-M...

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2017, 06:12:28 AM »
I think my old TS-E 90mm already has a macro ratio of 1:2 even if it's not called a macro lens...

You sure about that?  TDP says it's a 0.29x max mag (without tubes, of course).

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The TSe 90mm was often used for product / food photography, not for it's macro abilities but for it's Schlemflug principle...and that it's a telephoto. It can easily throw things in and out of focus really nicely, especially for that particular application. Having a lens that can do that and focus closer is only going to add to the ease of that particular application...although it does increase the need for a tripod. Tse's are best podded in my opinion. 

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2017, 01:21:40 PM »
I swear every time I hear an update on the 85mm f/1.4L IS Canon is deliberately trying to get me to switch to using primes. So far every detail has practically been the ideal prime for me and it's just getting better each time. "Between" the f/1.2 and f/1.8? I swear Canon, I'm not a big prime lens guy, but if this lens costs even a dollar less than the 85mm f/1.2L II right now, I'm probably gonna end up pre-ordering it..

I was incredibly surprised by the 16-35mm f/4L IS, so here's hoping Canon does it again.

The 85mm is a good match to a WA zoom like a 16-35mm. The classic PJ combo for the trenches was a 35 and a 90 on the Leica M2s...

I have a Takumar 85/1.9 and a 17-40/4 L for my 1D2. Plus the EF-M 22/2.0 and the FD 50/1.8 for the EOS-M...

I got a 35mm f/1.4L II loaned to me by CPS a while ago and used it on a few assignments and loved it--I could totally see this lens and the 35mm being all I really need on most feature/general news assignments. That said, it would be really tough for me to live without my 24-70mm f/2.8L II close at hand--that lens has been through hell and back with me and has always gotten the job done.
 
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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR2]
« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2017, 09:26:22 PM »
I swear every time I hear an update on the 85mm f/1.4L IS Canon is deliberately trying to get me to switch to using primes. So far every detail has practically been the ideal prime for me and it's just getting better each time. "Between" the f/1.2 and f/1.8? I swear Canon, I'm not a big prime lens guy, but if this lens costs even a dollar less than the 85mm f/1.2L II right now, I'm probably gonna end up pre-ordering it..

I was incredibly surprised by the 16-35mm f/4L IS, so here's hoping Canon does it again.

The 85mm is a good match to a WA zoom like a 16-35mm. The classic PJ combo for the trenches was a 35 and a 90 on the Leica M2s...

I have a Takumar 85/1.9 and a 17-40/4 L for my 1D2. Plus the EF-M 22/2.0 and the FD 50/1.8 for the EOS-M...

I got a 35mm f/1.4L II loaned to me by CPS a while ago and used it on a few assignments and loved it--I could totally see this lens and the 35mm being all I really need on most feature/general news assignments. That said, it would be really tough for me to live without my 24-70mm f/2.8L II close at hand--that lens has been through hell and back with me and has always gotten the job done.

I'm also not too big on primes but this is very temping. A 35 and 85 combo with fast AF and sharp wide open is incredibly versatile and compared to zooms you get at least 2 stops of light.
Together with the 100-400, a 85 1.4 could even obsolete the 70-200 2.8 in my kit, assuming that the AF keeps up.

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #50 on: August 16, 2017, 07:35:39 AM »
Can anybody explain me why this should create a hype? I wonder why Canon put effort into these lenses. Who the heck is using the tilt shift lenses around 40mm and longer? For what? Very much niche photography, isn´t it? I use a 17mm Tilt shift, which is nice in some cases of archicecture photography, but I never felt that I would miss anything around 35mm or more tele. Please help me out.
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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2017, 08:39:49 AM »
Can anybody explain me why this should create a hype? I wonder why Canon put effort into these lenses. Who the heck is using the tilt shift lenses around 40mm and longer? For what? Very much niche photography, isn´t it? I use a 17mm Tilt shift, which is nice in some cases of archicecture photography, but I never felt that I would miss anything around 35mm or more tele. Please help me out.
Well, I use the TS-E90 (with and without ex tubes) for product work

As to the longer focal lengths for architecture, I went out yesterday to remind myself about the 35/55mm Mamiya MF lenses I use with a shift adapter - not often, but the give a useful 'extra' to my normal use of the TS-E17 and TS-E24

Up/Down stitched shot at 55mm

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/shift-lens-50mm/

Partly to answer my own curiosity at to whether I want/need a TS-E 50mm ?

The 135 is a very likely buy for my small product work such as the Gummy bears pic I posted earlier

http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/macro-photography-for-trade-stand/


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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #51 on: August 16, 2017, 08:39:49 AM »

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2017, 09:06:25 AM »
I wonder - read: doubt - whether you would see any noticeable effect from that 210mm shifted lens example a few posts earlier. The perspective shift that a 210mm lens permits will be minimal...

I already do not find the perspective-shift of my TS-E 90 to be dramatic. A shifted TS 135mm lens will have even less of a perspective change. The only use I find with shifting the TS 90 is to correct for image shift while tilting.

Tilting a 135mm lens, however, will be extremely useful.
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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2017, 11:28:18 AM »
I wonder - read: doubt - whether you would see any noticeable effect from that 210mm shifted lens example a few posts earlier. The perspective shift that a 210mm lens permits will be minimal...

The only reason that 210mm is in the list was that it was in the 25/55/85/210 collection of Mamiya lenses I have, and it seemed a shame to leave it out ;-)

It's always there, if I need it, but as yet the need has never arisen...

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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2017, 11:44:11 AM »
The only reason that 210mm is in the list was that it was in the 25/55/85/210 collection of Mamiya lenses I have, and it seemed a shame to leave it out ;-)
Nice demo, then!
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Re: Clarification & Corrections on the Upcoming New Lenses from Canon [CR3]
« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2017, 11:44:11 AM »