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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2017, 07:08:15 PM »
The 600mm F4 DO can help put Canon back in the game. Add a built in 1.4X tele, like the EF 200-400 F4,  and the greatest sports and wildlife lens will be born.

I really don't want a TC on my primes.  I'll own one 200-400 with a 1.4 but that's it.  I see the difference when using my primes and so do my editors.  Why pay for great glass and dumb it down?
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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2017, 08:48:26 PM »
The 600mm F4 DO can help put Canon back in the game. Add a built in 1.4X tele, like the EF 200-400 F4,  and the greatest sports and wildlife lens will be born.

I really don't want a TC on my primes.  I'll own one 200-400 with a 1.4 but that's it.  I see the difference when using my primes and so do my editors.  Why pay for great glass and dumb it down?

I wasn't aware that Canon is out of the game...

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 11:48:36 AM »
The 600mm F4 DO can help put Canon back in the game. Add a built in 1.4X tele, like the EF 200-400 F4,  and the greatest sports and wildlife lens will be born.

I really don't want a TC on my primes.  I'll own one 200-400 with a 1.4 but that's it.  I see the difference when using my primes and so do my editors.  Why pay for great glass and dumb it down?

I wasn't aware that Canon is out of the game...

Canon "IS the game". Everyone else plays catch-up.   To keep it that way....  let us keep our amazing world class primes pure.   I'd rather own a 2.8 300 & 400 "as I do"   than throw a 1.4TC on my 300 for 420.   I see the difference and anyone who matters to me professionally can see the difference too.  This glass is an investment.  If the glass is sold... it will still keep much of it's value.   I like to 200-400 but IMHO my big white primes are superior.  I'd rather soot with an f/4 600mm  than my 200-400 with the 1.4 TC kicked in...   Perhaps it's just me! 
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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 11:51:37 AM »
Well my 500 II takes very sharp images with a 1.4... many pro’s use long white primes with a 1.4 and those images sell and win contests

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 06:53:43 PM »
They certainly do! However the shots without an extender are better.
It is a credit to Canon that their "Big Whites" work so well with extenders, but I don't think any owner would disagree with the fact that extenders are a compromise. Often a very workable compromise - but a compromise nonetheless.

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2017, 10:25:27 PM »

What sport you use 500mm or 600mm or 400, 500, 600 with 1x tele?


I assume that you mean a 1.4X tele......

and any sport that you are more than 50 meters from the athletes....

and skunk racing..... you REALLY want a long lens for skunk racing.....

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 12:07:29 PM »
The 600mm F4 DO can help put Canon back in the game. Add a built in 1.4X tele, like the EF 200-400 F4,  and the greatest sports and wildlife lens will be born.

I really don't want a TC on my primes.  I'll own one 200-400 with a 1.4 but that's it.  I see the difference when using my primes and so do my editors.  Why pay for great glass and dumb it down?

I guess if Canon adds a built in 1.4 to the 600DO you can ask them for a custom version w/o the 1.4.  You'll save the price of the 1.4 but pay a bit extra to have a custom lens made.

Based upon my experience with the 200-400 with the 1.4x built in, nearly every photographer I have meet, both Canon and Nikon shooters, find it valuable.

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 03:46:43 PM »
If they can make two 1.4x built-in converters in one lens that would be crazy :)

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2017, 12:48:45 PM »
Although I know this is not going to happen I would welcome a 600mm 5.6 DO lens close to the size, weight and price of the 400 DO II plus teleconverter...

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2017, 03:11:09 PM »
Is there any mention from Canon on a release date? I have heard maybe in January 2018?

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2017, 03:36:51 PM »
Is there any mention from Canon on a release date? I have heard maybe in January 2018?

There's a small chance it appears in early 2018 ahead of PyeongChang & CP+, or later on ahead of Sochi. I hope to know soon.
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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2017, 07:29:50 PM »
I can see them putting out a 600mm f/5.6 DO to be honest, that would be a pretty good seller for those wanting a prime, with slightly wider aperture then the typical 600mm from Sigma/Tamron.

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #27 on: Today at 06:03:04 PM »
I don't think it is going to happen in the nearest future, not at F4 at least. I agree however, that primes with built-in 1,4x or even 2x extenders should be really considered by Canon. A 400mm 2.8 with built-in 1,4 and 2x would  be a game changer for sports and wildlife.
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Yes, a 400mm 2.8 with a integrated 1.4x would be nice. But Canon has been displaying a prototype EF 600mm F4 DO at the trade shows for more than a year. I own a EF 600mm F4 which is fantastic but quite heavy. The prototype EF 600mm DO is compact and very hand-holdable. An integrated 1.4x on a 600 DO would be over-the-top good.
I shoot mostly wildlife but the 600mm is also a great lens for many sports and Canon's 2nd most popular lens in its loaner program during the recent Olympics.

Agree that the 600 DO w/ integrated extender (1.2, 1.4, or even 1.7) would be very nice.  Ideally I would like to see a combination 1.2 and 1.4 integrated extender so you could use either or both (to get 1.7).  I imagine that this would be a huge challenge and in the end it might not be cost effective.  Just wonder if Canon engineers ever designed such a lens or even built a prototype.

BTW - where did you get you information of Olympic lenses?

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #28 on: Today at 06:17:15 PM »

This glass is an investment.  If the glass is sold... it will still keep much of it's value. 

Until it is declared "obsolete" by Canon.

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #29 on: Today at 07:23:24 PM »
I don't think it is going to happen in the nearest future, not at F4 at least. I agree however, that primes with built-in 1,4x or even 2x extenders should be really considered by Canon. A 400mm 2.8 with built-in 1,4 and 2x would  be a game changer for sports and wildlife.
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Yes, a 400mm 2.8 with a integrated 1.4x would be nice. But Canon has been displaying a prototype EF 600mm F4 DO at the trade shows for more than a year. I own a EF 600mm F4 which is fantastic but quite heavy. The prototype EF 600mm DO is compact and very hand-holdable. An integrated 1.4x on a 600 DO would be over-the-top good.
I shoot mostly wildlife but the 600mm is also a great lens for many sports and Canon's 2nd most popular lens in its loaner program during the recent Olympics.

Agree that the 600 DO w/ integrated extender (1.2, 1.4, or even 1.7) would be very nice.  Ideally I would like to see a combination 1.2 and 1.4 integrated extender so you could use either or both (to get 1.7).  I imagine that this would be a huge challenge and in the end it might not be cost effective.  Just wonder if Canon engineers ever designed such a lens or even built a prototype.

BTW - where did you get you information of Olympic lenses?
The 600 DO w/integrated extender will nullify its purpose as far as weight and size are concerned.

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Re: EF 600mm F4 DO
« Reply #29 on: Today at 07:23:24 PM »