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Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:56:00 AM »
We have received a few more bits of information in regards to the soon-to-be-announced EF 85mm f/1.4L IS.

Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifications: (New information in bold / weight and dimensions are approximates).

  • Minimum focusing distance : 85cm / 2.78′
    • EF 85mm f/1.2L II minimum focusing distance is 95cm / 3.12′
  • Weight: 950g / 33.5oz
    • EF 85mm f/1.2L II weighs 1025g / 36.16oz
  • Filter size: 77mm
    • EF 85mm f/1.2L II filter thread is 72mm
  • Max diameter 88.6mm / 3.48″
    • EF 85mm f/1.2L II is 91.4mm / 3.6″ 
  • Length: 105.4mm / 4.15″
    • EF 85mm f/1.2L II is 83.8mm / 3.3″
  • 4 stop image stabilization
  • Flourine coating
  • 1 moulded aspherical element
  • 9 aperture blades

We’re still waiting to confirm USD pricing as well as the exact announcement date and availability.

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Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« on: August 14, 2017, 09:56:00 AM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2017, 10:54:41 AM »
Interesting.  When Canon 'responded' (in truth, simply updated) the 35L --> 35L II, they went big:  it got longer and heavier.

But here...

Length

85 f/1.8: 2.83"
85 f/1.2L II:  3.31"
85 f/1.4L IS: 4.15"
85 Art: 4.97"
85 Otus: 4.88"

Weight:

85 f/1.8: 15.0 oz
85 f/1.2L II:  36.2 oz
85 f/1.4L IS: 33.5 oz
85 Art: 39.9 oz
85 Otus: 42.4 oz

Filter diameter (as a read on entrance pupil):

85 f/1.8: 58mm
85 f/1.2L II:  72mm
85 f/1.4L IS: 77mm
85 Art: 86mm
85 Otus: 86mm


...I have to say, this is not the pickle jar I was expecting.  Anyone else surprised by this?

- A

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2017, 11:25:10 AM »
*FLUORINE* not *FLOURINE* !!!!
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2017, 11:32:15 AM »
The 85/1.8 is always in my kit and is one of Canon's greatest values.  "If it ain't broke..."
I have rented the 85/1.2 -- was shocked at the incredible optics  :o and difficulty to perfectly focus :-[.
So the upcoming 85/1.4 will have to be mind-blowing optically to replace the far smaller 85/1.8 in my kit.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2017, 11:33:37 AM »
I believe there were some discrepant opinions regarding whether or not the number of aperture blades affects the "roundness" of out of focus spheres. The 85 1.4L has 9 blades vs. 8 blades in 85 1.2ii. Can this make a difference?

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2017, 11:34:52 AM »
Personally I would have rather seen an update version of the already excellent 85mm 1.8USM , better control over abberations CA etc in that lens - would be happy for it to be a little heavier too - more the quality and styling of the 35mm F2 IS - but 950g ? nah not for me - carrying heavy stuff round for 12 hours is a big consideration when the image quality of the 450g 85 1.8 is already excellent , just needs a little more processing. Hopefully the specs will be wrong and it will be lighter ... cost is not a factor so much but weight is.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2017, 11:49:34 AM »
I never did think much of the 85 1.8 nor the 50 1.4.   Both were very underwhelming and I sold both of them.

The 85 1.2 II is a single purpose lens. It excels at natural light portraits and is pretty much pointless for anything else.

The 50 1.2 however is a lens I love, however it seems the inter-copy variation is enough to make many people loathe it.

I'll be eager to see what the 85 1.4 can handle. But I am not seeing a reason as yet as to why I would want it.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2017, 11:49:34 AM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2017, 12:01:08 PM »
Interesting.  When Canon 'responded' (in truth, simply updated) the 35L --> 35L II, they went big:  it got longer and heavier.

But here...

Length

85 f/1.8: 2.83"
85 f/1.2L II:  3.31"
85 f/1.4L IS: 4.15"
85 Art: 4.97"
85 Otus: 4.88"

Weight:

85 f/1.8: 15.0 oz
85 f/1.2L II:  36.2 oz
85 f/1.4L IS: 33.5 oz
85 Art: 39.9 oz
85 Otus: 42.4 oz

Filter diameter (as a read on entrance pupil):

85 f/1.8: 58mm
85 f/1.2L II:  72mm
85 f/1.4L IS: 77mm
85 Art: 86mm
85 Otus: 86mm


...I have to say, this is not the pickle jar I was expecting.  Anyone else surprised by this?

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You're comparing 35mm f/1.4 to 35mm f/1.4 vs 85mm f/1.2 to 85mm f/1.4. There's a half stop of aperture difference between 1.2 and 1.4.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2017, 12:09:24 PM »
If weight and dimensions go parallel with the Price, then this lens will be very expensive. Remember, it is similar to the Nikon 105/1.4. Guess, it can be even more expensive.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2017, 12:13:56 PM »
The more we learn about this lens the more likely it will be expensive and possibly even replace the EF 85mm f1.2L II after a period of time.

Ive long thought Canon will standardise a group of high end primes at the f1.4 stop like Zeiss with the Otus or Sigma with many of the Art lenses including the 85mm.

This lens will add too the EF 24mm f1.4L II and the EF 35mm f1.4L II, lets skip the inferior EF 50mm f1.4 which is long overdue replacement and remains a mystery only Canon can answer and the variable quality EF 50mm f1.2L. Nikon has shown a f1.4 100mm is possible so with the EF 85mm f1.4L they are on the way to a high end f1.4 series of primes.
In the UK at least the EF 85mm f1.2L II is £ 1,767 so I don't expect the f1.4L to be too dissimilar maybe even more expensive. 
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 12:34:33 PM »
Hmmm....weight is only a bit lighter....it focuses a little closer and it's a little less stubby in size....hmmm....I think I'll pass. It sounds like a poor man's 85IIL.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2017, 12:37:31 PM »
I believe there were some discrepant opinions regarding whether or not the number of aperture blades affects the "roundness" of out of focus spheres. The 85 1.4L has 9 blades vs. 8 blades in 85 1.2ii. Can this make a difference?

Check TDP / PZ / etc. for what the bokeh looks like on various lenses with slightly different blade counts.  I don't think 8 vs. 9 will be a gamechanger per se.

I think the biggest delta with 8 vs. 9 will be sunstars from the sun/streetlights/etc. when you stop the lens down.  An odd number of blades doubles the number of points you see:

https://www.thewave.info/Techniques/SunStars.html

"The number of points in the sunstar depends on the number of diaphragm blades. The number of points in the star is twice the number of blades for lenses with an odd number of blades, and equal to the number of blades for lenses with an even number of blades."

...but that's not exactly why you buy a portrait lens.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 12:40:40 PM »
You're comparing 35mm f/1.4 to 35mm f/1.4 vs 85mm f/1.2 to 85mm f/1.4. There's a half stop of aperture difference between 1.2 and 1.4.

Fully understood -- that's why I threw in the Otus/Art.  Both the current 50L and 85L are not as huge pickle jars as a 'corner-to-corner sharpness at all cost' sort of lens would indicate. 

In other words, if the 85 f/1.4L IS was to be like the 35L II and throw the house at sharpness, one would think it would be bigger/heavier than the specs CR just published.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2017, 12:40:40 PM »

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 12:54:07 PM »
It cannot replace the 85 1.2 II because the 85 1.2 is a compromise design not focused on charts or sharpness readings, but designed to make natural light portraits look amazing.  I'd love it to focus faster, but I can't possibly imagine the 1.4L replacing it for my use anyway.

Now, of course, I may be wrong and it may turn out to be an incredible lens. But I suspect it'll be OK.
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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2017, 01:19:33 PM »
It may or may not contain the Blue Goo tech. the "moulded aspherical element" could mean that. You'll recall that Canon hasn't specified what state that "organic material" of their blue refractive optics is in. It seems like their marketing people have been struggling to come up with a phrase that sounds better than "moulded plastic," for their high tech element.

If it has the Blue Goo, and it has similar effects as it does on the 35 II, then no one will be complaining about IQ, despite the new lens being a half pound lighter than the Sigma/Zeiss versions.

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Re: Updated Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS Specifcations
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