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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2017, 11:35:46 AM »
So if a white camera is being launched then it means we'll probably need to see white versions of the 15-45 and the 55-200.

The M, M2, M3 and M10 all launched in white (also, the M launched in red, silver, and subsequently blue, and the M2 also in blue).  Why would we 'need' to see white versions of those lenses now

Maybe we'll see an M22/2 IS in black and silver, along with the M11-22 in silver (leaving the M28 available in only black). 
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2017, 11:56:33 AM »
And there will probably be a EF-M mount full frame in a smaller body, and EF-M full frame speciality lenses, and if you want to use EF lenses, you can and will be needing the adapter.  It is a Japanese company.  They like to make things small, and they will also love to sell us new lenses.  Sony can pull it off with the E mount (18mm flange distance), so can Canon. 
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2017, 11:59:01 AM »
Three colors will be available, black, white and an unknown color

So, after all that talk about a Malaysian made lens that comes in 3 different colors, reality finally settles down to a a MILC model in 3 different colors.

How disappointing...

How disappointing is it that you couldn't look at the rumor and realize there was different SKUs for the mirrorless camera and the lenses.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2017, 12:01:07 PM »
So if a white camera is being launched then it means we'll probably need to see white versions of the 15-45 and the 55-200.

The M, M2, M3 and M10 all launched in white (also, the M launched in red, silver, and subsequently blue, and the M2 also in blue).  Why would we 'need' to see white versions of those lenses now

Maybe we'll see an M22/2 IS in black and silver, along with the M11-22 in silver (leaving the M28 available in only black).

Probably. Or some color sequence. Maybe they are rolling out pink.

The M had a  cray amount of color. Black,  white,  bay blue, two tones of red, and I'm sure I am forgetting some.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2017, 12:48:04 PM »
This will be followed by the EOS M1000, the EOS M10000, the EOS M100000 etc..

I think this is called "inflation" :)
« Last Edit: August 16, 2017, 12:50:26 PM by Jopa »

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2017, 12:50:23 PM »
This will be followed by the EOS M1000, the EOS M10000, the EOS M100000 etc..

Mxxxxxx would make it the crappiest camera ever... it would be a disposable digital camera with a cardboard body, no LCD, plastic lens, and write-once memory :D

But hey, it will be mirrorless! :D

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2017, 03:55:12 PM »
This will be followed by the EOS M1000, the EOS M10000, the EOS M100000 etc..

snorts.

I would imagine they will go the route of the rebels sooner or later. with xxxxD, xxxD, xxD, xD

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2017, 09:39:45 PM »
Looks like a point and shoot. I guess Canon knows what it is doing.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2017, 10:13:04 PM »
How is the M10? It appears to be the same form factor of the original M and M2. There is a part of me, even if it means sacrificing the viewfinder, that really likes the original M size as it is kind of the ultimate compact APS-C kit (when paired with the 22mm pancake).

An M100 could interest me (at a cheap enough price) to fill that maximizing of IQ with most compact size camera.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2017, 04:06:54 AM »
This will be followed by the EOS M1000, the EOS M10000, the EOS M100000 etc..

Mxxxxxx would make it the crappiest camera ever... it would be a disposable digital camera with a cardboard body, no LCD, plastic lens, and write-once memory :D

But hey, it will be mirrorless! :D

I think you're confusing this with the IKEA cardboard camera: https://petapixel.com/2012/05/04/a-review-of-the-ikea-cardboard-camera/
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2017, 07:15:30 AM »
i don't care at all for naming, numbering and color of Canon EOS cameras ... as long as there is a black version.

all i care about are functionality, IQ, UI, size and price. if M100 has M6 innards (sensor, DPAF,..) in smaller form factor (M10 or even better M2 size) and comes at a decent price, i will get one to replace original EOS M as my "lite, compact, go anywhere" kit. 

if EOS M100 re-uses M3 sensor + AF, i will not buy. Not even in "Hello Kitty" pink version.  :P
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2017, 09:10:40 AM »
Not even in "Hello Kitty" pink version.  :P

I think you secretly want this camera to be released ;)

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2017, 12:18:04 PM »
This will be followed by the EOS M1000, the EOS M10000, the EOS M100000 etc..

For those that did do the real math in HS: M10n... :-))

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2017, 12:27:19 PM »
Canon is probably planning for a mid series between the M6 and the new M100.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2017, 03:27:23 PM »
How is the M10? It appears to be the same form factor of the original M and M2. There is a part of me, even if it means sacrificing the viewfinder, that really likes the original M size as it is kind of the ultimate compact APS-C kit (when paired with the 22mm pancake).

An M100 could interest me (at a cheap enough price) to fill that maximizing of IQ with most compact size camera.

I own the M10 (along with the M2 and the M); the flipping-up LCD is nice and kind of essential for Monday as I plan to use an iPhone-controlled (and tripod-mounted) M10 + adapter + (unfiltered) 100-400 lens for the two minutes or so of totality eclipse in my hometown (assuming a cloudless day!).

Normally the 22mm pancake is 'permanently' attached to the M10...for the exact reasons you've described (size, and of course, weight). Plus, the 22mm lens does not obstruct the on-board flash...sadly, the onboard flash, when fired while the 18-55mm M lens (as well as the 11-22 lens) is attached to the M10, DOES cast a shadow at wider angles. (I would be interested in knowing whether the somewhat smaller dimensions of the 15-45mm M lens enables it to interact better with the M10's onboard flash.)

There are occasional (mostly vacation) situations where the on-board flash is essential...I find the M10 to a very important part of what's available to me on our family trips.

On a related note: I had never attached a lens the size/weight of the 100-400 II to an M-sized body--two words come to mind: bad ergonomics. The amazing IS abilities of the 100-400 enable, in my hands, easy hand-held shooting with the 5D MkIII. But when that lens is attached to the M10...it just doesn't work for me.

M10s can be had for reasonable prices at the usual places...and the M10 uses the same battery/charger combination as the M and M2. I find the M10 to be a bit snappier as far as auto-focusing is concerned (compared, again, to the M and M2)...but not significantly better...but it is a noticeable difference.

There is no hot-shoe...so no place for a real flash nor for an external mic...and no input, either.

I've gotten used to the M10's point-and-shoot-style menu; the older M's are better in this regard.

The M10 is, therefore, kind of a point-and-shoot Canon with an APS-C sensor inside.

If the M100 has similar properties...with a much-improved sensor (and improved focusing abilities) inside...I will seriously consider it.

On the nomenclature front--I guess the real question is whether Canon will give the 'M' designation to their full-frame mirrorless offering.

If they do, then it would make sense to give it (the full-frame mirrrorless Canon) the MX designation...say, M1...where X is less than or equal to 3 (they won't do 4, right?).

For their ILC bodies, the single digits are both full-frame and cropped sensor models.

For their MILC bodies, perhaps the same will hold true.

Then, for both ILC and MILC bodies, the MXX and MXXX families will be cropped sensors...with the 3X versions serving as the entry-level models.

All bets are off if Canon supplies their full-frame mirrorless bodies with a designation other than M.

My two cents.

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Re: The EOS M10 Replacement Will be the EOS M100
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