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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 04:15:48 PM »
Just put up some tests of the 90 and tubes to give a bit better idea of what T&S can and can't do for those unfamiliar: http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/tilt-tubes-macro/

Firstly, looking at the pictures I still don't know what is a TS lens capable of and how to use it. Does it increase or decrease the depth of field at a given aperture? A subject on a non-flat/horizontal surface will look like it was on flat/horizontal surface? Secondly, there are no macro shots.
To see the difference between the EF 100mm f/2.8 and the TS-E 135mm f/4 using tubes and the tilt function we need some pictures of smaller flowers and insects right beside each other.

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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 04:15:48 PM »

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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 04:19:48 PM »
Does it increase or decrease the depth of field at a given aperture?

Neither. It changes the orientation of the depth of field 'slice' relative to the sensor plane (without tilt, they are parallel).   Imagine shooting a flat piece of paper with text, if the page is parallel to the sensor all of it will be in focus, but if you tilt the page, and the DOF is thin, only a portion of the page will be in focus.  If you apply appropriate tilt with a TS lens, at the same aperture you can get the entire tilted page back in focus.   
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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 05:18:31 AM »
@ Drainpipe: may we have a front view of your rig?  And is that a MP-E with an extender?

Ask and ye shall receive :) The gopro was for filming some of my jaunts. Worked well for the big bugs, not much to see with the little guys.

Yes, I was running my MP-E with a 1.4x extender for a while. Have since stopped using it, sharpness wasn’t the greatest.
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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 08:11:10 AM »
Thanks - very interesting and impressive!  From my limited perspective, it appears that macro brings out a very creative side of serious photographers.


Ask and ye shall receive :) The gopro was for filming some of my jaunts. Worked well for the big bugs, not much to see with the little guys.

Yes, I was running my MP-E with a 1.4x extender for a while. Have since stopped using it, sharpness wasn’t the greatest.
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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 08:20:10 AM »
People seem to be saying that a 135mm TS-E would have limited uses.
What would those limited uses typically be.
Would it be an unusual portrait lens.

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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2017, 01:06:26 PM »
People seem to be saying that a 135mm TS-E would have limited uses.
What would those limited uses typically be.
Would it be an unusual portrait lens.

There’s a lot of talk that it will make for a great product photography lens. Considering the .5x this is what I think most pros will buy it for.

I don’t think it would make a bad portrait lens, and you can be selective with the focus plane to get a little shallower DoF which I think will look unique. I doubt it’s going to replace the 135 f/2 or equivalent because of the lack of autofocus.
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Re: Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS Macro vs Canon TS-E f/4.0 L Macro
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2017, 01:06:26 PM »