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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2017, 10:34:54 AM »
... The source is not sure if the smaller G series PowerShot cameras like the G9 X and G7 X will move to APS-C...
To me this is out of discussion. I'd expect them to stay at 1" sensors.
G9 X and G7 X live from their size: as small as possible with good optics and good IQ.
I would be very surprised to those with APS-C. And if so I would expect lenses the same size but then with worse optical data (FL/aperture/IQ).

Only reason to do so would be to use self-made sensors instead of the 1" ones of Sony.

1.5"?
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2017, 10:34:54 AM »

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2017, 10:46:54 AM »
I'm expecting the exact same Digic 7 processeor 24MP APS-C DPAF sensor combination, so 1080p 60p

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2017, 11:04:22 AM »
powershots always get digic's first. probably beacuse, just as a guess, shorter product development times

Digic 3 first appeared in the 1DII.  Digic 4 was first used in the 50D.  Digic 5 launched in the PowerShot S100, and Digic 6 in the PowerShot SX280 HS.

So, 'always' is not the word you want to use here.
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2017, 11:09:34 AM »
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Only reason to do so would be to use self-made sensors instead of the 1" ones of Sony.

1.5"?
Sorry, but what do you mean?
Using 1.5" instead of 1.0" now?
==> Still the Camera/lens would become bigger.

Or do you mean, I am wrong with 1" for G7/9 X?

==> See here:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/point-and-shoot/advanced-cameras/powershot-g7-x
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... the sensor: a large and light-grabbing 1.0-inch, 20.2 Megapixel* High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor ...
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2017, 12:44:39 PM »
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Only reason to do so would be to use self-made sensors instead of the 1" ones of Sony.

1.5"?
Sorry, but what do you mean?
Using 1.5" instead of 1.0" now?
==> Still the Camera/lens would become bigger.

Or do you mean, I am wrong with 1" for G7/9 X?

==> See here:
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/point-and-shoot/advanced-cameras/powershot-g7-x
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... the sensor: a large and light-grabbing 1.0-inch, 20.2 Megapixel* High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor ...

I mean that also in your hypothesis ("use self-made sensors instead of the 1" ones of Sony") I would expect G7/G9 to move to 1.5" sensor rather than ASP-C (which was the rumor we were commenting on: "The source is not sure if the smaller G series PowerShot cameras like the G9 X and G7 X will move to APS-C..").

I think that offering a really poketable option makes a lot of sense from a commercal prespective, even though I personally look at other specs, including sensor size.

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2017, 12:56:30 PM »
I mean that also in your hypothesis ("use self-made sensors instead of the 1" ones of Sony") I would expect G7/G9 to move to 1.5" sensor rather than ASP-C (which was the rumor we were commenting on: "The source is not sure if the smaller G series PowerShot cameras like the G9 X and G7 X will move to APS-C..").
Got it, thank you.

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I think that offering a really poketable option makes a lot of sense from a commercal prespective, even though I personally look at other specs, including sensor size.
I am quite interested in a camera in the size of a G7 X or even smaller.
Bad point is that you can't get anything good with a viewfinder - except for something with "Sony" on it.
And I had my experiences with Sony products...
sometimes you have to close your eyes to see properly.

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2017, 01:04:52 PM »
We’re being told that there will be more APS-C sized sensor PowerShot cameras coming and that the G1 X Mark III is first, and then we’ll get a G3 X Mark II and a G5 X Mark II.

If the G5X Mark II receives an APS-C sensor with a 24-100 f/1.8-2.8 lens, it will explain why Canon is not interested in releasing fast lenses for their APS-C MILC bodies. Sounds very enticing to me.

24-100 1.8-2.8 for APS-C would be insanely huge if technically feasible. Think about EF-M 15-45 and that's already quite a chunk for a PowerShot.

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2017, 01:04:52 PM »

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2017, 01:48:31 PM »
If the G5X Mark II receives an APS-C sensor with a 24-100 f/1.8-2.8 lens, it will explain why Canon is not interested in releasing fast lenses for their APS-C MILC bodies. Sounds very enticing to me.

LOL

do you realize how freaking huge that lens would be?

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2017, 02:18:59 PM »
Please, Canon, send us (or me) a Powershot G5X UW with a f/4.0 16-35 equiv (10-22) IS lens with stellar IQ.

For those like me who really like ultra wides but only for some photos / situations. With a compact outline it would a nice solution which fits into a lens compartment in a small backpack.
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2017, 03:15:36 PM »
Please, Canon, send us (or me) a Powershot G5X UW with a f/4.0 16-35 equiv (10-22) IS lens with stellar IQ.

For those like me who really like ultra wides but only for some photos / situations. With a compact outline it would a nice solution which fits into a lens compartment in a small backpack.
As there is zero chance of this lens coming with a Powershot G5X, the closer that would be EF-M11-22mm "stuck" in an EOS-M camera. Maybe Tamron 10-24mm F3.5-4.5 VC?

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »
We’re being told that there will be more APS-C sized sensor PowerShot cameras coming and that the G1 X Mark III is first, and then we’ll get a G3 X Mark II and a G5 X Mark II.

If the G5X Mark II receives an APS-C sensor with a 24-100 f/1.8-2.8 lens, it will explain why Canon is not interested in releasing fast lenses for their APS-C MILC bodies. Sounds very enticing to me.

Probably not going to happen. I really dont see a reason for a lens like this with the camera, size issues inc.
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2017, 03:21:56 PM »
Please, Canon, send us (or me) a Powershot G5X UW with a f/4.0 16-35 equiv (10-22) IS lens with stellar IQ.

For those like me who really like ultra wides but only for some photos / situations. With a compact outline it would a nice solution which fits into a lens compartment in a small backpack.

wouldnt be that compact. probably around the same size as an M with the 11-22 then.

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2017, 03:30:38 PM »
The G5Xm2 does not have to be equipped with a zoom. Could be a 28/35/40mm Equivalent with a very large iris.
Sony and Fuji have fixed lens compact priced at 1800-4000$ and don't even have swivel-touchscreens.
A G5Xm2 with stellar prime at 700-800$ would be fairly fitting the market.

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2017, 03:39:57 PM »
The G5Xm2 does not have to be equipped with a zoom. Could be a 28/35/40mm Equivalent with a very large iris.
Sony and Fuji have fixed lens compact priced at 1800-4000$ and don't even have swivel-touchscreens.
A G5Xm2 with stellar prime at 700-800$ would be fairly fitting the market.
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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2017, 04:12:58 PM »
I doubt that a major change for a 1 in sensor powershot to APS-C would result in the camera using the same basic name, but it has happened before with the 1D series.

Canon buys those 1 in sensors from Sony, so they might want to use their own sensor.

If it happened, lenses would become either larger or slower (smaller apertures).  Even if the lens is slower, the large area of the sensor might compensate enough to improve low light usage considerably.

I would certainly be interested in getting a powershot with APS-C or better yet, FF sensor. 

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Re: Multiple APS-C Sensor PowerShot Cameras Coming? [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2017, 04:12:58 PM »