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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2017, 01:21:40 AM »
I sold my M5 a few months ago too. I still like the camera, but it still felt laggy to me. Like it was one generation away from being as snappy as an slr. The big reason, though, is that I went all full frame by selling all my aps-c glass. When they come out with a full frame mirrorless, I'll be sniffing around.

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2017, 01:21:40 AM »

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2017, 05:55:02 AM »
Don't know about the M5, but 2 batteries has been often enough for me for a day's shooting with the M6 (as well as the M I had before). In my experience, unless I have the LCD continuously on, even one battery is enough from time to time.

I do turn continuous focus and AI Servo off (two major battery drains).

I have Continuous AF turned off but leave AI Servo on.  Is that really a major drain as well? If so, off it goes.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2017, 11:46:34 AM »
Hi Guys , I had three Canon branded batteries and yes I could get through a day shooting with 2 batteries but as a holiday Travel Camera ,where charging points are not always handy I felt I was always trying to get one charged up , perhaps a double charger would have helped , Once traded in I kept 2 of the batteries for my friend Coco who has just started out with an EOS 200d which uses the same Battery ( 1 battery lasted  all day not even 50% used so its not a fault with the battery just the power drain of the camera) we  shot  hundreds of shots using the live view screen.
 Turning of the screen and putting eco mode on  would for me make the advantages associated with Mirrorless less useable , It killed it for me and I stood a big loss to put into a new body that said  I am happy with my new 6d11 body and my original 6d  Very Impressed with the new 200d as a cop body and out of the box works with all my Godox flash systems/triggers  no issue , so I guess something about mirrorless and electronic shutter is what makes it hard for Godox to get it to work properly .


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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2017, 12:38:08 PM »
How the battery life is compared between M5 and M6?
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2017, 12:51:15 PM »
[...]

Once traded in I kept 2 of the batteries for my friend Coco who has just started out with an EOS 200d which uses the same Battery ( 1 battery lasted  all day not even 50% used so its not a fault with the battery just the power drain of the camera) we  shot  hundreds of shots using the live view screen.

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The higher power need of mirrorless cameras and comparable system size used with EF(-S) lenses was the reason I skipped the M5.

First time I saw the M5 I thought "What's that camera body, never heard about it" but than I realized it was the M5 which has similar size of SLR bodies except the short flange distance. Because I like my EF(-S) lenses and are more a tele user I do not profit too much from mirrorless I thought: Wait what's coming. FF mirrorless is maybe interesting to use the old FD glass I really liked.

But than came the 200D / SL2 which is cheap enough to buy bodies to avoid lots of lens changes and it is a great camera: With OVF and with display + DPAF. And the battery life is good + using OVF + manual focus with non-focus-by-wire lenses is a powerless method to check a photograph before taking it.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2017, 05:17:08 PM »
I just don't get more than a 100 or so shots per charge.  The M5 was sent back to Canon but they sent it back the next day that it was fine.
Don't know about the M5, but 2 batteries has been often enough for me for a day's shooting with the M6 (as well as the M I had before). In my experience, unless I have the LCD continuously on, even one battery is enough from time to time.

I do turn continuous focus and AI Servo off (two major battery drains).

I have Continuous AF turned off but leave AI Servo on.  Is that really a major drain as well? If so, off it goes.
I just finished a day of shooting with my M5 and 18-150 and 22.  428 shots on a single battery and the indicator shows its 50% (the indicator is not very accurate and usually optimistic), I think the battery is pretty much drained.  We attended an outdoor festival and later took the kids to a park.  I mostly shoot with my EVF, but did some over my head and down-low shooting with the LCD.  I was in Servo, high speed continuous whole time and mostly had continuous AF off, but did turn it on twice for limited periods of time.

I've found continuous AF to be the biggest battery drain, so I am always judicious with its use.  If you leave you camera on with continuous AF active, the camera will burn through the battery very quickly.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2017, 10:12:24 PM »
Has anyone compared Eco Mode vs not?  Heading to Italy for a few days with my M6, will bring two charged batteries, but need to decide whether or not to pack the charger.  It'll be my daytime/backup camera, as I'll have my 1D X along (and I know one fully charged battery will be sufficient, I won't even bother with the second battery, much less the charger).

From image resources review:

"When using the built-in monitor, the camera offers up to 295 shots of CIPA-rated battery life. If you are using an optional electronic viewfinder, the battery life dips slightly to 290 shots. The M6 also has an Eco mode, which provides up to 425 shots when using the monitor by dimming it after about two seconds and then turning it off after ten seconds when the camera is idle."

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2017, 10:12:24 PM »

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2017, 05:38:04 AM »
Has anyone compared Eco Mode vs not?  Heading to Italy for a few days with my M6, will bring two charged batteries, but need to decide whether or not to pack the charger.  It'll be my daytime/backup camera, as I'll have my 1D X along (and I know one fully charged battery will be sufficient, I won't even bother with the second battery, much less the charger).

From image resources review:

"When using the built-in monitor, the camera offers up to 295 shots of CIPA-rated battery life. If you are using an optional electronic viewfinder, the battery life dips slightly to 290 shots. The M6 also has an Eco mode, which provides up to 425 shots when using the monitor by dimming it after about two seconds and then turning it off after ten seconds when the camera is idle."

I wonder why battery life dips on EVF as opposed to the screen.

Also, I wonder how that 295 shots is rated.  The problem is, if I'm taking 295 shots, it won't be over a very short period of time.  I might take 10 shots in a few seconds, but then I might be looking at the viewfinder for another 10 minutes before I taken 1 more shot...

If you don't take any shots at all, but keep the EVF running, I wonder how long the EVF would last.

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 09:27:32 AM »
From image resources review:

"When using the built-in monitor, the camera offers up to 295 shots of CIPA-rated battery life. If you are using an optional electronic viewfinder, the battery life dips slightly to 290 shots. The M6 also has an Eco mode, which provides up to 425 shots when using the monitor by dimming it after about two seconds and then turning it off after ten seconds when the camera is idle."

Thanks!  Since I tend not to chimp, Eco mode sounds worthwhile.


I wonder why battery life dips on EVF as opposed to the screen.

Also, I wonder how that 295 shots is rated.  The problem is, if I'm taking 295 shots, it won't be over a very short period of time.  I might take 10 shots in a few seconds, but then I might be looking at the viewfinder for another 10 minutes before I taken 1 more shot...

If you don't take any shots at all, but keep the EVF running, I wonder how long the EVF would last.

EVF is higher resolution, more pixels to drive = more power.

CIPA has established protocols, which include powering the camera off/on every 10 shots, and for cameras with an onboard flash, firing that flash every other shot.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2017, 11:07:56 AM »
I take CIPA battery tests as seriously as diesel emission tests.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2017, 03:47:08 PM »
I take CIPA battery tests as seriously as diesel emission tests.

Depends on your purpose.  US EPA mileage estimates are similar – tell you nothing about real world use, but allow you to say an Accord is more fuel-efficient than a Pilot, or that the M3 gets more/less battery life than the M6.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2017, 06:12:29 PM »
If you like the camera, Shorter battery life is not the reason to get rid of the camera. If two spare battery is not enough, get two more. I travel with M plus M2 and 3 spare batteries.

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2017, 08:25:41 PM »
So do the Godox triggers work on the 6Dm2?

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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2017, 10:19:30 PM »
Purely anecdotal and non scientific but I find that if I press the preview playback button between shots it saves a little battery life (Press the info button to get the RGB Histogram view which is mostly black screen). I can get around 200-300 shots out of my M/M2 battery that way. If I shoot any video clips that number goes way down. I don't think I've ever needed 3 batteries for a days shooting but I'm fairly casual with my photography.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2017, 10:28:51 PM »
So do the Godox triggers work on the 6Dm2?

Only in series and with a 500k ohm resistor.
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Re: Goodbye to My Canon M5
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